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  Question on In Vitro fertilization - quote from 12/15/12 WT

  by sd-7 in

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  12/15/12 wt p. 15:.

  "in a variation that some term 'embryo adoption,' the embryos placed in a wife's womb involve neither her eggs nor her husband's sperm.

  in yet another variation, a married couple's eggs and sperm are fertilized outside the womb by ivf.

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  I'm lost

  by Dyfii in

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  not at all.. i tried to kill myself 3 times.

  i was 14, nobody likes me at school, my weight was a problem, i tought that god wasn't there for me, my life had no sense.

  at 15-16 i decided it was enough.

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  Welcome. I'm sorry you've been through such a hard time. I agree with what others have said, be yourself. As a JW, I used to look down on homosexuality. It's really not fair that you should be alienated because of your sexual orientation. Homosexuals growing up in any fundamentalist religion generally have a hard time, and this is certainly no exception.
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  YouTube video: Five Stupid Things About Jehovah's Witnesses

  by cedars in

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  great video.

  this is how we are viewed by outsiders.

  there's no fooling some people!.

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  That was great, Cedars. Thanks!
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  King David an example in morality?

  by hoser in

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  from november study wt page 7 par 17. .

  "consider too how davids example of earnestly seeking god's guidance can help us to resist the temptation to view pornographic images".

  "meditating on his elevated standards equips us to keep free from the snare of pornography".

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  who writes this stuff?

  
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  Even after reading Crisis of Conscience, one thing (at least) still puzzled me

  by kepler in

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  2. bible

  it was several years back and from time to time i will look something up in the index.

  all manner of things about jw life are revealed - as well as discussions within the leadership, plus historical and contemporary controversies - but there is still something i missed.. please excuse me if this is not a detailed summary.

  when the drum roll starts for the purge, it appears that the friends and associates of ray franz are targeted first.

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  but I don't recall seeing anywhere where the author says "that's why the majority came after me".

  I haven't read the book completely, and In Search of Cristian Freedom deals with other aspects the first book doesn't explain. My question is, did Franz speak to the GB about his position on 607 along with other doctrines/policies he disagreed with?

  Another thing is to note is that his associates were targeted first, perhaps because they were more vocal about it or got caught. Now, given that situation, the Purge in Bethel, why would Franz need to spell out "that's why the majority came after me"?
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  Quoting out of context - ever justified?

  by cognisonance in

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  jw literature on subjects such as creation vs. evolution often quote out of context, with the most recent material (the newest brochures) acknowledging that often those quoted to support the jw viewpoint do believe in evolution nonetheless.

  sometimes indeed quotes in jw literature are just outright misquotes, leaving off preceding or succeeding words (or sentences) that would completely alter the meaning of the source sited (i.e.

  carl sagans quote, the fossil evidence could be consistent with the idea of a great designer is indeed a flat out misquote).. .

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  Are there situations where this third possibility holds true, that it would be rational, factual, and contextually sound to quote someone who does not agree with the point one is making?

  Here is what I think. As long as there is a disclaimer, as long as sources are given, then even if the conclusion the one using the quote/s arrives at is incorrect, there really shouldn't be an issue. It is an individual's duty to examine for theirself the evidence and arrive at their own conclusion.

  What Creationists (of whatever camp) try to do is use all the negatives or unknowns in the theory of evolution and try to sum it up to arrive at the conclusion that therefore, evolution is impossible. As an example, if one scientist believes in punctuated equilibrium and another believes in gradualism, the WT will happily quote what the first scientist perceives as a flaw in gradualism along with what the second believes is a flaw in punctuated equilibrium, thereby canceling out any possibility for evolution for the lay reader. As a more informed person would surmise, evolution doesn't rest soley on this two seemingly competing theories. There are many more options, and that might include the possibility that even both have occurred at different times in different species.

  Aside from your question, the consensus of biology, geology, anthropology, etc. converge at evolution, and so even though we have gaps in understanding does not mean that therefore, evolution is not true. The WT and Creationists alike try to pick out the unknowns or seeming inconsistencies without looking at the big picture, simply trying to confirm not only Special Creation, but along with it their peculiar flavor of it (WT sides with science on the Earth's age, yet deny evidence for humans existing long before A&E; YEC take the Genesis account literal word-for-word and arrive at the Earth only being a few thousand years old).
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  Is there one Bible Prophecy.....

  by Phizzy in

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  in the form of a prediction, that can be proven to truly be a prediction,i.e written before the event, and it came true ?.

  it would be good not to have time wasters on this thread in the form of the common ones that are brought up to demonstrate the bible's prophetic prowess, like cyrus being named , these have been debunked already.. but does there seem to be a genuine prophecy in there somewhere ?.

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  I had to sit through the Walk by faith, not by sight DVD today. Did Christians have foreknowledge of Jerusalem's destruction? Vidqun's quotes from Eusebius are interesting, but alas they are subject to bias.

  Are there any other sources?
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  Are YOU a Thinker?

  by alamb in

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  the recovering thinker.

  hi, my name is bob, and i am a recovering thinker..... it started out innocently enough: i began thinking at meetings now and then to loosen up.

  inevitably though, one thought led to another and soon i was more than just a theocratic thinker.

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  Lulz, hilarious! Thank you!
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  HOW TO IDENTIFY THE TRUE RELIGION

  by Fifth Column in

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  jesus said that the true religion would be evident in the lives of the people who practice it.

  by their fruits you will recognize them, he said.

  every good tree produces fine fruit.

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  That's like asking how to identify which super-power will get me to work faster, Flash's running speed or Superman's flying speed.
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  Not Religon...not Belief....Not Inerrancy: INTERPRETATION is christianity

  by Terry in

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  what the bible "says" isn't religion or doctrine or belief.. interpretation is.. proved how?.

  there is not just one christian church.. ask yourself "why?".

  here is a logic puzzle easily solved!.

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  Loving your neighbour as yourself is one of those things that you don’t need a great deal of intelligence to comprehend, hence the simplicity and superiority of the Christian message. -apostatethunder

  I appreciate the sentiment. However, what it means to "do good" varies from person to person, culture to culture, etc. As an example, JW's think that by recommending others to avoid higher education, they are loving their neighbors as themselves, when in certain cases they may be hurting them! What's that saying, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"?