Wow... Knowsnothing and Neverknew... we're dumb as H*$(... LOL
I probably got fed mercury, lead, or was dropped as a baby... LOL
so, it has been agreed that i will be reading the bible with my jw friends.
straight bible no wt.. we tried to start with matthew and move through the new testament.
i insisted on using the esvs i purchased from amazon for $.49 a piece so we could write in them.
Wow... Knowsnothing and Neverknew... we're dumb as H*$(... LOL
I probably got fed mercury, lead, or was dropped as a baby... LOL
i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?
it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.
i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.
the only way for forgivness of sins
Why?
i apologize on behalf of my nation.
the united states of america has become a large sodom and gomorrah.i am so sorry lord, you deserve far much better.
you have blessed us with freedom.
If you'll study the AUTHORITY upon which each religion was established, then you WILL find the TRUTH.
Thank you for such a succint summation of the basis of all religion.
I agree with cofty. Why don't you engage in dialogue instead of preaching?
why did he not put pen to papyrus, all the wise sayings that are attributed to him by others.?.
he is supposed to be the greater moses , at least moses is credited with writing the first five books of the bible , admittedlly some centuries later .
jesus never wrote anything at all .. if jesus is the greater moses ,what writings has he done ?...zilch.
His 3 1/2 year ministry didn't allow him time to lift a pen. He knew his disciples would take care of it flawlessly anyways, and in fact he promised it in John 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
Pretty bad-ass way to write... telepathically from heaven.
continuation of this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/242543/2/free-home-bible-study.
newyorker: the familiar observation that the bible is the best-selling book of all time obscures a more startling fact: the bible is the best-selling book of the year, every year.
calculating how many bibles are sold in the united states is a virtually impossible task, but a conservative estimate is that in 2005 americans purchased some twenty-five million biblestwice as many as the most recent harry potter book.
JWfacts brought up a good point. Free only because of tax exemption status.
BTW, nothing is truly free. Someone had to cough up the dough to get Bethel those brand-spanking new machines in Walkhill. Someone had to pay to by the ink, the paper, the computers, the electricity bill. etc.
Producing such a large book will always have costs associated.
i apologize on behalf of my nation.
the united states of america has become a large sodom and gomorrah.i am so sorry lord, you deserve far much better.
you have blessed us with freedom.
Stopthetears, what is your purpose here?
sometimes i think about stuff i read in watchtower literature and wonder if it would be received differently if it was just like, one guy with a bible, ranting as he paced back and forth amongst the jws.
"it's abundantly clear that jesus selected me to be his channel of communication with mankind.
don't you see the proof?
It's no different than the Wizard of Oz's man behind the curtain. By effectively separating himself from this artificial supreme entity, he is allowed to rule with impunity and without question. Man can question man, but man cannot question the supreme. Take the place of the supreme, and viola!
The case of the GB is interesting for sure. They do not directly claim to be God, yet they claim to be God's sole channel. Furthermore, they use standard proof texts to claim their authority, and effectively claim that since God has named them FDS, they are to be followed. They further separate themselves as 'God', by the clever use of third person. When the curtain falls, we realize who 'God' is.
Thanks for this, SD. You always have something great to say.
gta v trailer #2.
(song: stevie wonder "skeletons").
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m56nsc-nubg.
After watching the trailer, it geniunely feels like a movie. Pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citaz613koc.
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cedars.
How blessed are we for this fine counsel from one of the members of the faithful and discrete slave!
so, it has been agreed that i will be reading the bible with my jw friends.
straight bible no wt.. we tried to start with matthew and move through the new testament.
i insisted on using the esvs i purchased from amazon for $.49 a piece so we could write in them.
Ecclesiates reflected a lot of my own personal thoughts and put them on paper. Solomon is the ultimate nihilist, and speaks the truth about the world. There are no blessings, no curses; just the material, the mind, and the reaction to every thought/action.
If you take time... with patience... read Genesis as well. Just the creation story alone. Ask a timeline to be created. Recreate the scene, from the Bible alone, no commentaries. As Cantleave said, total bullshit.
Neverknew, another thing to consider for your friend is that 'awakenings' depend upon the person. Sometimes you can't get through to a person via logic soley; there is an emotional aspect to belief as well. Most of the Law of Moses was harsh and unforgiving. Ask your friend to put themselves in those situations, like merely picking up wood on Sabbath, for instance.
I know it sounds kind of devious, but you can and are allowed to use emotional appeals as well as logical appeals. Hell, JWs do it all the time.