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  Christianity gives you....ummm...ummm....exactly what?

  by Terry in

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  christianity:.

  you get struck on the cheek and you pony up for the other slap.. you pray for the enemy who wants you face down in the mud with his heel on your neck.. you get treated like pond scum but you force a smile and forgive.. .

  if you are abused?

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  Knowsnothing

  Waste your life and bet everything on the little white Roulette ball spinning around the Bible casino. Hope when your number comes up you hit the jackpot.

  Better hope it is eternal life instead of the permanent inside of a coffin for the eternal dirt nap!

  1 Corinthians 15:12-19

  12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

  Paul said it himself. All that personal sacrifice, all that preaching, it would all be in vain.
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  THIS MAN proved that God exists and he did it effortlessly!

  by Terry in

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  meet a really smart fellow named anselm 1043--1109 a.d.. .

  he was elected abbot in lombardy in 1078 a.d.. .

  that than which nothing greater can be thought exists in the understanding.

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  Knowsnothing

  In that degree their goodness is derrived from the most supremely good among them.

  I'll just try tackle this one. Sometimes, the sum of the parts is greater than the individual parts themselves. This argument fails at recognizing this.

  Also, who defines good?
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  So.....hi!

  by FaceTheFacts in

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  2. friends

  not really good at introductions.

  i am an active jw who has my doubts about certain things like the bible as a whole but im slowly but surely wading through them.

  just of curiousity: what on earth has happened to this board?

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  Knowsnothing

  I am an active JW who has my doubts about certain things like the Bible as a whole

  Great place to start, IMO. If the whole foundation is wrong, what's left to discuss or believe in?

  what on earth has happened to this board? I dont really see any substantial topics on JWs, mostly semantic gymnastics regarding atheism and creation. So should I tryto contribute here or is this not the place for JW discussions?

  It is, it's just as a board, JW topics have been discussed ad infinitum, and we've all pretty much moved on from that. This board is mostly composed of Ex-JWs, and as such, that reflects the overall mentality. Of course, you are free to bring up any topic you are interested, but as I said, there really is not much else to discuss on JWs that hasn't been already. You dig?

  Anyways, welcome to the board, Facethefacts! Face what facts, exactly?
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  hmm i am being warned about!

  by unstopableravens in

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  im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.

  i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.

  i was very respectful.

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  Knowsnothing

  unstoppable, I agree with what LWT has said. Who do you love more, your family or your 'zeal' to be right?
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  Living as a gay Jehovah's Witness - My Story!

  by TimothyT in

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  it wasn't a feeling of rebellion; it was the feeling of love and care i desired.

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  Knowsnothing

  You know the guy eating the big invisible doughnut? :) - TimothyT

  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! Thanks for the laugh!
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  Living as a gay Jehovah's Witness - My Story!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  it wasn't a feeling of rebellion; it was the feeling of love and care i desired.

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  Knowsnothing

  Hey, nice to see you around again! Is that a Roman amphitheater in the background? Awesome!
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  I quit being an Atheist!

  by cyberjesus in

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  i think the term "atheist" was coined to accomodate a "theist" population to understand someone with an opposing viewpoint.. i find it interesting that for many... their life is arranged around their belief in their deity.. that was my case when i was one... .

  i think that calling myself an atheist its accepting a defact stand of theism of the world and extends and validates at some degree tha myth.. i am an "atheist" as much as i am an "adarthvarthian".

  i never call myself by the second... nor i have to negate the multitude of fantasies and myths that people choose or are trapped in believing... .

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  Knowsnothing

  Atheists are only called so because of theism. If golf had never been invented, you wouldn't hear anyone saying, 'I'm not a golf player'. It would be a non-sequitur. In fact, you never hear anyone defining themselves as a non golf player. I totally get what you're saying, cyberjesus.
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  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

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  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  I have not the slightest clue what you are trying to say. - Cofty

  Yes, Cofty. That is the genius of belief. That ever so subtle slight of hand, without being one in the mind of the believer.

  Anyways, back to apologist mode. Why couldn't Jesus' body be just the ultimate preservation, like plastination, except allowing movement? As for Jesus eating fish and subsequently metabolizing them, who says they had to be metabolized? He's freaking magic, Cofty, magic! As for neurology and thought process, just subject your inquiries through the same line of thought, namely, Jesus is magic!

  Here is the point, Cofty. Do you believe Jesus can make a round square or a four corner circle? Once you realize this is possible for Jesus, then you can believe in him. You can truly believe in the impossible. Try it. It's refreshing.
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  Tell me which one you like best (if any)

  by Terry in

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  i compsed the following 3 pieces of music.. tell which one you like best and why, please.. if you don't like any of them that's okay, too:).

  van gogh among the sunflowers.

  waltz for summer ending.

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  Knowsnothing

  Terry, amazing compositions. I can truly see the passion you have for music. I used to, but my creativity has hit a dead end for now, so it would seem. Maybe one day I'll pick up the arts again.

  They really are all great, but I liked the second one most, the so called waltz. It's what I was in the mood for today. It really has that sinister, phantom of the opera feel at times, more somber and melancholic throughout though, really.
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  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  Knowsnothing

  Lol Cofty, I know you are going to hate me for this one, but I'm giving them a get out of jail free card. Jesus has anincorruptible/corruptible - spiritual/physical body. Nothing to see here folks, nothing to see.

  P.S. When Jesus asked Thomas to poke his wounds, wouldn't that essentially be Jesus admitting he did have corruption on his body? I wouldn't call a physical body with wounds incorruptible.