Reductio ad absurdum.
Knowsnothing
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The great unanswered question - WHO chose the Governing Body to serve as representatives?
by cedars inwho is the governing body?.
put simply, the governing body purports to be a small group of anointed men (currently numbering 7) who represent a much larger group (numbering the thousands) of anointed individuals living on earth today.
in nearly every reference to their position of oversight over the worldwide brotherhood, the governing body refer to themselves as being representatives.... .
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The great unanswered question - WHO chose the Governing Body to serve as representatives?
by cedars inwho is the governing body?.
put simply, the governing body purports to be a small group of anointed men (currently numbering 7) who represent a much larger group (numbering the thousands) of anointed individuals living on earth today.
in nearly every reference to their position of oversight over the worldwide brotherhood, the governing body refer to themselves as being representatives.... .
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Knowsnothing
00DAD, then what's the government called, The Party? I don't believe I have my quotes right, but I'm just putting the idea out there.
1984 on revisionism/absolute authority is so relevant to this subject.
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Text message from a bro at the hall I got this morning as I woke
by shakyground inwe miss you, hope to see you soon.
your dad will be wondering where you are at the resurrection.
love, bro.
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Knowsnothing
We miss you, hope to see you soon. Your dad will be wondering where you are at the resurrection. Love, Bro. XXXXXXX
I wonder if you'll miss the ~7 billion that currently inhabit the earth, too?
Shameful.
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Pictured: Roman lovers 'buried holding hands for 1500 years'
by possible-san inpictured: roman lovers 'buried holding hands for 1500 years':.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8868835/pictured-roman-lovers-buried-holding-hands-for-1500-years.html.
http://blog.fabmagazineonline.com/?p=50027.
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I will give you this, possible-san. The only thing I find conforting about it, is if that couple remained with each other 'till death. That's how it should be. That eternal love that is never extinguished.
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The great unanswered question - WHO chose the Governing Body to serve as representatives?
by cedars inwho is the governing body?.
put simply, the governing body purports to be a small group of anointed men (currently numbering 7) who represent a much larger group (numbering the thousands) of anointed individuals living on earth today.
in nearly every reference to their position of oversight over the worldwide brotherhood, the governing body refer to themselves as being representatives.... .
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Knowsnothing
Cedars, I didn't mean to sound mean. I apologize if I did. Text can never fully convey emotion like face-to-face.
I honestly wonder why the decision was made. Did the GB want power for themselves, as opposed to be commanded by a single leader, or did they genuinely see themselves conforming to 1st century Christian authority structure?
If the vote was "unanimous", the prez. no longer had any say in the matter. A better analogy would be that it went from a monarchy to an oligarchy, yet there was essentially no change in "political policy". All power rests with "The Party". Ingsoc is always right.
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Pictured: Roman lovers 'buried holding hands for 1500 years'
by possible-san inpictured: roman lovers 'buried holding hands for 1500 years':.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8868835/pictured-roman-lovers-buried-holding-hands-for-1500-years.html.
http://blog.fabmagazineonline.com/?p=50027.
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Knowsnothing
It's just weird, because that means they were placed that way after they had died. And, I only shudder to think if they were burried alive. Not romantic at all.
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Telephone Hookup if You Can't be Physically Present at the KH
by Band on the Run ini keep coming upon references dealing with a phone hookup if you must miss a kh meeting.
in my day, if you missed, you missed and celebrated the fact.
what is the procedure for the hookup?
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Stillstuckcruz, it's all a big guilt trip man.
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The great unanswered question - WHO chose the Governing Body to serve as representatives?
by cedars inwho is the governing body?.
put simply, the governing body purports to be a small group of anointed men (currently numbering 7) who represent a much larger group (numbering the thousands) of anointed individuals living on earth today.
in nearly every reference to their position of oversight over the worldwide brotherhood, the governing body refer to themselves as being representatives.... .
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Knowsnothing
Cedars, the Society never was a "republic". Russell ran the show, albeit it in a softer manner. When the Judge came, all the fun and games were over. He ruled with an iron fist.
Here is an excerpt from freeminds.
The last page of the February 1, 1976, Watchtower was devoted to a notification entitled "Governing Body Adjustments." The article advised that the Governing Body had, as of January 1, 1976, formed six supervisory committees: Service Committee, Writing Committee, Publishing Committee, Teaching Committee, Personnel Committee, and Chairman's Committee. This was, of course, big news in the world of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Prior to this time virtually all important policy- and procedure-making decisions depended ultimately upon the approval of one man--the Society's president, Nathan H. Knorr.
And as we all know, his behind the scenes guy, Freddy.
So it seems that, while the quotes you give, give an impression that the GB as we know it today existed since '44, it wasn't until '76 that it really began functioning as we know it today.
The full article is here. You can see Freddy discredit a GB.
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The Watchtower is NOT a false prophet
by The Quiet One inregarding what some have said here about the wt being a false prophet.. i would like to make my point regarding the wt not being a false prophet... so please, if you can be patient enough to read this, at least try to understand what i am getting at.. a false prophet is one who, according to deuteronomy, makes a false prediction of the future and claims that the prediction came from god, or in other words claiming that 'god has said he will do a certain thing at a certain time' etc.. for example, hypothetically speaking, if someone had claimed: "god will bring about the end of the world in 2010", they would have been proven to be a false prophet, obviously.
but, as an example, imagine a man who claimed the position of a prophet of god, (as moses did, because although he was not the type of prophet that predicted the future.. he was still a prophet or spokesman for god) and that he had publicised worldwide, according to his interpretation of a (for example) prophecy found in the book of isaiah, that the world would end in 2010.. and he had also stated that he was not saying that god will end the world in that year.. but only that there was biblical evidence that god might do so.
that would clearly have been a mistake.
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The Quiet One, are you in cahoots with mankelli? By the way, I wonder if CoC finally scared him straight?
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The Watchtower is NOT a false prophet
by The Quiet One inregarding what some have said here about the wt being a false prophet.. i would like to make my point regarding the wt not being a false prophet... so please, if you can be patient enough to read this, at least try to understand what i am getting at.. a false prophet is one who, according to deuteronomy, makes a false prediction of the future and claims that the prediction came from god, or in other words claiming that 'god has said he will do a certain thing at a certain time' etc.. for example, hypothetically speaking, if someone had claimed: "god will bring about the end of the world in 2010", they would have been proven to be a false prophet, obviously.
but, as an example, imagine a man who claimed the position of a prophet of god, (as moses did, because although he was not the type of prophet that predicted the future.. he was still a prophet or spokesman for god) and that he had publicised worldwide, according to his interpretation of a (for example) prophecy found in the book of isaiah, that the world would end in 2010.. and he had also stated that he was not saying that god will end the world in that year.. but only that there was biblical evidence that god might do so.
that would clearly have been a mistake.
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The Quiet One, what will happen as time moves on and 1914 as the "beginning of the end" is proven false? I remember in my childhood this date being touted as absolute and signified that the end was right around the corner (as it has always been).
Also, does the mass exodus of 1925 and 1975 of JW's mean nothing?