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  Transfer of Bank Balances and Kingdom Halls.

  by kramer in

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  two things related to ongoing comments regarding forgiving of loans / transfer of balances to the wtbs and the ownership of kingdom halls.

  firstly, i would argue that congregations don't care that bank balances have been transferred to the society.

  i would contend that people contribute to the preaching work, and that's it , so long as there is enough in the bank to maintain the hall with a reasonable reserve, then i doubt many would argue against it.

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  kramer

  @thewonderofyou - yes, and that's a model I would advocate to supplement the charity resources that are needed, with surplus profits being reinvested for the furtherance of the social objectives (in the UK 50% of distributable surpluses can be paid out in profits for private gain, so maybe the model doesn't fit exactly) . Trading profit on property in prime locations in NYC, or tertiary areas of London can fund charitable objectives in other parts of the world, then that great.
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  Arrangements for Electronic Donations to Local Congregations

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
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  april 17, 2016 to selected bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: arrangements for electronic donations to local congregations.

  (attachment 1) 2016 04-18-e scong--arrangements for electronic donations to local congregations.

  (attachment 2) credit card donation arrangement instructions.

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  kramer

  The Old Testament precedent is tithing, for some strange reason, the org have decided not to point this out. All of the posts above do nothing to knock the simple option of being able to donate by plastic cards, what is the problem with that?
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  I thought this was such a well written article I decided to cut and past it here

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read this article on exjwreddit and thought it was so well written, that just summed everything up.

  i've cut and paste it.

  here is the link to it on reddit.. https://m.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4spw99/where_have_all_the_jws_gone/.

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  kramer

  Just done the maths, the average elder in my congregation is 43, we have 9 elders, you have flawed logic
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  Does the Governing Body practice what they preach and go door to door or stand behind the carts?

  by Bob Loblaw in

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  2. beliefs

  i would think with all their demands on the rank and file that they should all at least get there 10 hours in a month.

  just curious.

  anyone know?.

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  kramer

  Yes , they do both
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  £73m, for 29 properties anyone? - UK properties up for sale

  by kramer in

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  http://www.estatesgazette.com/jehovahs-witnesses-plan-sale-watch/.

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  kramer

  http://www.estatesgazette.com/jehovahs-witnesses-plan-sale-watch/
  
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  KH construction

  by truth doubter in

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  2. scandals

  is it a fact that all kh construction earth wide has stopped?

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  no, it isn't true
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  Chelmsford is an Asbestos Dump

  by Slidin Fast in

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  the dubsters in the uk are being taken for such a ride.. on one side they have prime land and property to sell in north london worth many millions of uk pounds.. on the other they have bought a contaminated site used for years of illegal dumping.

  one of the main contaminants is asbestos.

  it will take volunteer labour months simply to remove the toxic material.

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  kramer

  OP: You make yourself look silly writing stuff like that, if someone tells you that it's just not true.
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  cleaning at bethel

  by pepperheart in

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  has any body else heard this that they are asking members of different congs in new york to go and clean at bethel for free,if this is true then it really shows that the borg is short of money and might even be crumbling before our eyes

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  kramer

  how does one set of volunteers , from congregations, rather than another set of volunteers, from the branch, cleaning, show that the org is crumbling and running out of money?
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  Cue to leave

  by Grey Goose in

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  just reading a thread about one circuit saying the pubs must donate $10.. it got me thinking, that if it ever became policy to donate a % of ones income, that would be my cue to leave.

  or i would kick up such a stink about it i would be kicked out.

  either would be good for me.. so, is there any public policy changes which would be your cue to leave?.

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  kramer

  Tithing is one thing that has not been introduced, for which there is a clear biblical precedent
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  Exactly where is the expansion?

  by NeverKnew in

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  there is a thread that i'm really enjoying discussing the consolidation of congregations into existing kingdom halls.

  i'm realizing that the only threads that have spoken of building were related to branch offices.

  we know the wts's consolidations and reopening a are a shell game of sorts but i'm wondering... is anyone seeing an increase in kingdom halls in their part of the world?

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  kramer

  Apparently in the UK the LDCs have worked on 65 new builds, and 183 refurbished since the committee's inception - according to the recently produced video