kramer
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What is their official explanation for not allowing beards?
by keyser soze ini ask because my gf, who knows all about my jw upbringing, convinced me to grow a goatee, just to see how it looks.
we both decided it looked good so i decided to keep it.
i tried to explain to her that as a jw, i wasn't allowed to grow one, but then drew a blank when she asked me why.
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kramer
There isn't a ban on beards? Unless you have read something I haven't -
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Why is the Governing Body pushing the very young(5-12 year old) into getting baptized into subservience to the Corporation?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini think a very simple reason may be because the very young are pretty much the only ones naive enough to take the plunge these days.
with the internet available to inform people about the deceptive lies printed by the wt corporation it seems that they are getting their member from the less informed population like the elderly and the very young.
they/gb hate higher education because they loose members who get one and so they are focusing on those that are dumb enough to believe their boogie man bull shit about jehovah choosing their corporation and anybody not a part of it he will destroyed at armageddon.. also we need to consider that they view these young people as a potential free labor source so the sooner you get them hooked into baptism with the threat of disfellowshipping you can get more free labor out of them..
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kramer
?? they aren't - unless you have any references to back this up, encouraging 5 year olds to get baptised? , do you have anything stronger than anecdote? -
kramer
with due respect @cappytan, is it really a straw man argument? for example the Director Jean-Luc Goddard (or even the Star Trek character Jean-Luc Picard!) has a french name, we call him Jean-Luc Goddard even though we speak English, we don't translate a non-english name into English when we refer to him and call him John-Luke. By the same reasoning as Gods name was revealed in Hebrew, shouldn't that be the creator's name we eho read the Bible should use? YHWH/Yahweh? But really,
I dont think he is too hung up on it as according to scripture he didn't reveal it too often, called himself many things and allowed its true pronunciation to be lost. Also his son never referred to him by name - in a similar way that I never address my dad by his name - which would be a little weird
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Governing Body Public Address - today!
by diamondblue1974 inany ideas what this is about?
- apparently a three hour public address through each kingdumb hell from the gb.
anyone heard anything about this?.
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kramer
@gayle - they mentioned Falkland Islands, Pakistan, Dubai, and I think the branch covers a couple of the other UK middle eastern countries -
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Governing Body Public Address - today!
by diamondblue1974 inany ideas what this is about?
- apparently a three hour public address through each kingdumb hell from the gb.
anyone heard anything about this?.
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kramer
As konceptual99 said... But The Searcher, you must have come in at exactly the moment that money was talked about, it was in the context of x hundreds/thousands of volunteers but those that can't volunteer some can contribute financially, one sentence in 3 hours is hardly begging for money. I was surprised /disappointed that there was not so much to make fun of, no tony tight pants like comments, it was all pretty balanced and positive.
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UK September 15 Service Meeting
by kramer inanyone know what the change of program for that weeks meetings is about?.
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kramer
Anyone know what the change of program for that weeks meetings is about?
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What did Russell mean by this statement?
by LogCon inspeaking of dwight moody and his associates, pastor russell wrote:.
it is our thought that the lord used these men, and through their ministry the fore-ordained number was completed at the fore-ordained time, 1881. .
why 1881?.
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kramer
@focus, do you have a reference for the 2000 prediction, I haven't seen that one
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Who Really Profits from the WTBTS?
by Freedom77 inlike they say in the movies, "follow the money.
" the thought occurred to me the other day - the wt scam rakes in billions of dollars, and yeah some of that goes to operations and equipment.
but bethelites at farm and factory get only a bare little dorm room and a monthly pittance.
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kramer
People dont profit, as you have laid out the GB and the top dogs probably get a little more comfort, but people arent making private profit out of this organisation. The property deals in New York, soon to be in London and smaller amounts in other cities, will be one off hits, but thats it, for each $1bn thats about $120 per publisher, not a huge amount.
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JW presence
by Laika inthe underground station i live next to in london is usually relatively quiet, however it is also the local station closest to the wimbledon tennis courts, so for about 2 weeks a year it really comes to life, starting today.
(yay wimbledon!
i saw no jws last year, but they seemed to have cottoned on to this opportunity and were out in force today.
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kramer
@listner - no following the usual rules of not approaching people. Another one I know of shifted 40 books on a Saturday afternoon, again in a central location in the capital city. I heard figures for a months placements recently, it averaged out something like 10 magazines per hour per publisher,17,000 hours worked, 170,000 magazines. Having said that I have also seen carts in provincial towns and the attendees looked pretty much asleep.
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JW presence
by Laika inthe underground station i live next to in london is usually relatively quiet, however it is also the local station closest to the wimbledon tennis courts, so for about 2 weeks a year it really comes to life, starting today.
(yay wimbledon!
i saw no jws last year, but they seemed to have cottoned on to this opportunity and were out in force today.
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kramer
in a four hour session today, in a relatively busy area in a European capital , 450 magazines and 25 books were shifted. This is pretty representative, it may be quieter in smaller towns but in major metropolitan areas it gets the publications out there