I'm sure it won't take too long before you're talking again. If her husband continues to make research as he did. Anyway the number of lurkers keeps on increasing.
LL
oh man....check this out.. my brother, an active jw, whom i am very close too, called me sometime last year to tell me about the un issue.
i never cared to talk about religion .... most of my family is in and i'm not.
so i boringly reply,'oh yeah'..not really listening.
I'm sure it won't take too long before you're talking again. If her husband continues to make research as he did. Anyway the number of lurkers keeps on increasing.
LL
i'm curious to see if anyone here has any major anxiety disorders and how it affects their lives.
as a semi-confession, i think i may have something of this sort, but i'd like a comparison first.
being a male, i never go to the doctors unless my leg is falling off, so i don't just want to go to a doctor to medicate a problem that could be overcome in other ways.
Elders meetings are among the most stressful moments of my life.
LL
i have been coming here as a lurker for some time and occasionally posting.
i was first drawn by posts from alanf and farkel who i suspect are in my age bracket and from my era in the wts.
i look forward to bill bowen's posts because i have a personal interest in combating the abuse of children in any form or group.
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today i was out in service, met sveral nice peopel who like to here about god news from the bibel,i was reding from luk 21, and showing them what will happend, and that jehova can solve our problems.i think here in matrealistik sweden we have a bigg los of spirutal sings, evrything here is about money, and young peopel dont like this so much, they want a new order, some have gone to this proclaim the streets movment, it is a anarkistic movment.. so i must say the messege from bibel is radher the same, a bigg dissaster, and then a new order.. but i dont think as the gov body that only jw are saved,i am more i touch widh rutherfords talk,million who now live will never die.. never forget that the bibel say, we are not judges,it is jesus who have this power,think gb has forgett this thing.. greatings from the north.
Miljoner som nu lever skall d. Med syn pa detta kan vi bra predikar, fr hoppet blir den samma.
Det viktigaste r at gr a Jehovas vilja, nu och efter uppstandelsen.
Millions Who Now Live Will Die - Good News Needs to be Preached
LL
Looking forward to see Scandinavia back at the next World Cup.
LL
the all knowing watchtower geezers claim christ is not the mediator for mostly all jws: .
jesus christ, is not the mediator between jehovah god and all mankind.. he is the mediator between his heavenly father, jehovah god, and the nation of spiritual israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members.
(worldwide security 1986, p10 par 1 the desire for peace and security worldwide).
He's the mediator between Jehovah and the Onehundredandfortyfourthousand spiritanointed kingpriests, the so called New Covenant.
Didn't you know, Fred?
Astonished
LL
(the title of this thread is: love for wbts would not withstand "divination"!
for some reason it did not show up the way i typed it in) .
most publishers would stick with the society through almost anything: .
You're right, IW, one can put up with imperfections, but not with outright apostasy.
LL
i wonder how many jws r aware that candles have pagan origins as admitted by bishop newman(sp?
) in the 19th century?
should a faithfull jw have anything to do with candles therefore?
is all of this discussion only because a candlemaker regularly posts on this board?
LL
does anybody here have a clue why the society did not simply publish a revised edition of united in worship of the only true god, but changed the title to worship the only true god?
is unity no more considered as important?
if a change of title seemed necessary, why not call it "united in worship"?.
Does anybody here have a clue why the Society did not simply publish a revised edition of United in Worship of the Only True God, but changed the title to Worship the Only True God?
Is unity no more considered as important? If a change of title seemed necessary, why not call it "United in Worship"?
Or is this really a change in attitude, which became evident in WTs-literature over the last decade that personal responsibility is more and more stressed, being guided by principles instead of hard and fast rules?
Has any body already had any looks into the changes made in the new book?
LL
below was a letter to editor that was printed in the paducah paper.
i thought it might be relevant now as jw's are defending their position on child abuse as being ok. it all boils down to the five questions.
if the typical jw can answer the five questions truthfully then they are forced to admit there is a problem.
path, I agree with your reasoning.
This is a highly emotional subject. But thie does not mean to loose our power of reason.
1. If a pedophile were to move into your congregation, would you be informed?
Would you be informed in any other religious denomination, if a pedophile moved into your vicinity?
2. If a pedophile molested your child, would you be allowed to warn other parents in your congregation?
Adding to path's comment, most of molestation cases occur within the own family, 2nd thought.
3. If a pedophile denied he molested your child, and you could not produce two witnesses to the act of molestation, would the church discipline him/her in any way?
Besides the fact that he would be disciplined (at least two elders would convene with him, and he would be under 'observation' by the elders, in my country (which is not the FI) there have been lately many allegations of child molestation which later where found out to be faked. So before disciplining, it is surely good to have substantial evidence, not only an accusation. BTW, two victims are two witnesses according to current policy.
4. If the state where you reside does not require reporting a pedophile who has molested a minor, will church officials report it?
Who needs the elders to do reporting, you could do yourself?
5. If, as an adult, you charge an elder with molesting you when you were a child and he denies it, would he discontinue serving as an elder?
See my comment to question N 3.
Just giving it a thought.
LL