An interesting verbal joust.
Interesting that when I quote directly from your book, with no additions or subtractions, you back away, call it assumptions or call it a verbal joust.
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Life after death
by truthseeker ineveryone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .
what are your views on life after death?.
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Excellent comment EntirelyPossible....this also applies to evolutionists.
Truly it does. Except, in your case, the scientists you love have no evidence, reproducible hypothoses or anything. Having something that fits within a scientific model does.
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What say you Christians ???
by wobble init seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
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You may think what you like and ask all you wish. It is irrelevant to the points raised and, as I said, none of your concern. It neither adds nor detracts from the debate and, to be honest, your suggestion in another thread about brain damage when you asked proved the real reason, personal attacks.
The BS you just wrote about "intelligent debate" after those comments are, frankly, comically bad attempts to cover up your previous outing of your own intents.
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...WBT$/JW 1975.....Harold Camping`s May 21 2011 Rapture...
by OUTLAW innow we know how stupid we look..when we knock on peoples doors... with the wbt$ message... .
"armageddon is just around the corner!".
..................... ...outlaw.
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Nothing dramatic seemed to occur for 7 days, other than darkness as the ice canopy was being superheated and converted to thick rainclouds.
Whisky. Tango. Foxtrot.
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What say you Christians ???
by wobble init seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
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What was your experience with WT and where are you at now?
You seem to ask people that a lot when you are debating.
Your answer is "None of your concern."
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Biggest Surprize for my Family
by Snowboarder inso, my grandparents don't know i'm going to visit, them i think this is going to be the best surprise for them ever since i live in canada and they live in europe, it will be out of the blue.
i'm going with my uncle.
i have not seen my family for 5 years, so i miss them a ton and we have lots to talk about.
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Yeah, when you yell "Surprise!" don't pronounce it "Surprize!!!11!!!"
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Nota bene, I did not say "true" believer
Doesn't matter, the no true scotsman fallacy still applies. You are differentiating yourself from people that claim the same belief because you don't like wht they do, claiming they aren't something they claim they are.
When you asked, "Where the heck did they learn ...?, you were implying the text is incorrect - an assumption.
I didn't imply anything. I asked a question. Anything other than that is a gross assumption on your part. How is that not a valid question? Where did they learn to mine the metal and the blacksmithing skills to make a till?
That still wasn't an assumption. I was creating illustrative method of stating the situation. If it makes you feel better, I'll restate it as "God killed Adam and Eve for eating fruit after not giving them free will or any choice in which to opt in. According the the same Bible, because of Adam's actions and God's decisions based on Adam's actions, everyone else that has ever lived has died."
Better?
Although, God NOT warning Adam that the situation Adam mat create would also doom billions of people seems like a bit of a dick move for God. It actually works out better for God's image if he had bothered to warn Adam.
"They never had the chance to accept." - This is a blatant assumption on your part. Eve's answer to the serpent showed that she understood and accepted the command.
Not in the least. Let's take a look:
The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
Nope, nowhere in there does it say she had a chance to agree. It still says it was a command. Nowhere does it say they ever had a chance to opt in or agree. Pure assumptive speculation on your part. Her repeating it does not in any way imply understanding. My kids can repeat things that I have told them without understanding why they can or can't do certain things. The ASSUMPTION she understood based on simply the ability to repeat it back is fallacious.
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Believers, I say believers, do NOT do any of those things.
The "no true scotsman" fallacy rears it's head.
Believers most certainly will. You may not like them, but many of them most certainly are believers. Not ones like you and tec, of course, but they are believers nonetheless.
All of the above are assumptions.
Completely untrue. The first is a question. The assumption is on your part when you say god taught them.
The second it simply noting what the bible literally says. An assumption would be that the god offered them the chance that part just wasn't important enough to write down. Same for the third. I am just saying what the bible literally says, not assuming more or less.
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The Rapture Is Taught In the Bible
by snowbird in1 thessalonians 4:15 -17 and then this: we can tell you with complete confidencewe have the master's word on itthat when the master comes again to get us, those of us who are still alive will not get a jump on the dead and leave them behind.
in actual fact, they'll be ahead of us.
the master himself will give the command.
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EntirelyPossible
Indeed. The bible does teach the rapture.
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Seriously? That much ado about a mythical Person? Seriously?
Yes. Because other beleive so strongly in that mythical person they will kill, lie, pass laws and attempt to rule others based on it.
This Christian gets tired of others making assumptions, yet calling foul when I make assumptions.
What assumptions did I make that were not clearly labeled as so? I have no problem with assumptions, I have problems with assumptions treated as fact without any reasonable reason to do so.