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  The Hubble, Yahweh, the Bible, and faith.

  by Nickolas in

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  there have been several threads in which the views of the universe provided by the hubble space telescope have been discussed.

  i guess this will be another one.

  there's a new series being broadcast here in canada on the oasis hd nature channel entitled hubble's canvas.

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  I plan on it this weekend, but I am developing a three day training class I have to deliver in a week and half and I am behind on getting it done.
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  The Value of a Godless World

  by cantleave in

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  thought provoking.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42rhvmnuaa&feature=uploademail.

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  What evidence is there to show that a moral code is evolving? It could be argued that we, society is losing its morals and is degenerating.

  Slavery is mostly outlawed, women have the right to vote, are no longer property, child labor is slowly becoming a thing of the past, babies are no longer left to die if they seem weak, the mentally challenged are, for the most part, no longer hidden away as an embarassement and are enabled to be productive and happy members of society.

  I can keep going, but I think those are enough examples.
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  The Hubble, Yahweh, the Bible, and faith.

  by Nickolas in

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  there have been several threads in which the views of the universe provided by the hubble space telescope have been discussed.

  i guess this will be another one.

  there's a new series being broadcast here in canada on the oasis hd nature channel entitled hubble's canvas.

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  I thought you were off to play golf ;)
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  "Putting on and taking off the flesh" in more scientific terms ;)

  by tec in

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  i would like to share some understanding i received today, and i would like to share the understanding first and then the scientific understanding.

  as the faithful understand, we are spirit 'underneath' our flesh.

  i put underneath in quotations because that's not quite the right word.

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  For some reason I was thinking of Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.

  It puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the cross again.

  So let me get this straight . . . you're too busy to do any real research yourself so you want others to do it for you?

  No, you do not have it straight. I have been doing the research but so far I have been unable to find material that seems to be as salient as what you have found, so I asked for pointers. As to not being able to find time to go talk to a scientist, as I said, if I could find the relavent material that would point me to someone that had researched the material, I would have ALREADY found the material.

  As I said, I have looked, can't find the material you seem to have found. You can post a link to help me out or not, but don't even try to credit to not looking or being lazy or too busy. That dog won't hunt.

  but several hours poking around should get you a better result than nil . . . I suspect my assumption is actually correct.

  Several hours of poking didn't. I only have so much time to read papers. Your assumption MAY be correct in some or even the majority or circumstances. I just asked for help as I said what I HAD spent several hours looking for and reading didn't seem relevent.

  Good luck on the golf. Long and straight. I'm playing in a charity tournament Wednesday. Depending, we may play sometime. What's your handicap?
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  The Value of a Godless World

  by cantleave in

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  thought provoking.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42rhvmnuaa&feature=uploademail.

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  If this were entirely true you would not have people who risk their lives to save others

  It's a balancing act. Survival of the species but not necessarily at the individual level.

  where does that internal moral code originate?

  It evolved. It is still evolving. Monkey, dogs, wolves, dolphins, whales... to a degree all have some moral code.

  .then a godless world surely would have the strongest anti abortion stance...since they are denying that feotus the only thing it could have...LIFE....but then again...I suppose there is no accountability either if life is meaningless and we are just recyled material.

  It's called an evolving moral code. It isn't black and white. Your conclusion doesn't follow the premise.
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  The Hubble, Yahweh, the Bible, and faith.

  by Nickolas in

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  there have been several threads in which the views of the universe provided by the hubble space telescope have been discussed.

  i guess this will be another one.

  there's a new series being broadcast here in canada on the oasis hd nature channel entitled hubble's canvas.

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  Theological Arguments, Human Realities

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  as i have sunken to a new low in condescending posts (according to botchtowersociety, who truthfully is an expert on all things bullshit), it did occur to me that discussions, debates, and mud slinging insult matches on this board often have a common root.. let me put out there that i am not an atheist, nor an agnostic.

  frankly, i respect your right to believe that god is a trinity.

  that he is jesus.

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  Think of what a radical statement this must have been 2000 years ago:

  Or the golden rule 1500 years before Jesus lived.

  But where did it all come together? Where did the Scientific Revolution the Age of Reason and the Enlightenment occur? Where did the spark become a fire?

  During the golden age of Islam is where the flight was lit. Unfortunately, war had a way of intervening, Ghengis Khan, the crusades, crushed any progress and only hundreds of years later did western civilization begin to catch up and push things forward. The Islamic societies never really recovered, and it was only by ignoring a large part of the church or hiding what they were really doing that western science was able to flourish, a spark was found int he dying embers of what once was great and it was rekindled.

  Being in a Judeocrhistian civilization had nothing to do with science flourishing other than holding it back a few hundred years.
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  For the board atheists....

  by Jack C. in

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  this is a personal observation and certainly not representative of all atheists.

  i enjoy discussions with folks of this persuasion; in general they appear well read and somewhat more educated than many believers.

  as a group most atheists cringe and become insensed when discussing the existence of a deity with believers especially fundamentalists.

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  "Time dialation would make it possible for passengers in a fast moving vehicle to travel further into the future while aging very little

  We ALL travel through time. That's why clocks move forward. Time dilation makes them move at difference rates due to distorted local space time properties relative to body suffering the effects of the local distortion due to speed or gravity. Notice the paragraph you quote doesn't use the phrase "time travel" which you keep desperately trying to equate to "time travel". As I said, we ALL travel through time, hopwever, time dilation is exactly the term for traveling through time at different rates, not "time travel" as it is meaningless and already happening to all of us.

  You were wrong, you continue to be wrong.
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  The Value of a Godless World

  by cantleave in

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  thought provoking.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42rhvmnuaa&feature=uploademail.

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  Going back over the last few posts I seem to be a bit snippy with you EP and I apolgise.

  No worries my friend. It's all good. No apology necessary. We can debate passionately and still be friends at the end of the day.

  My point was that why we may indeed be able to have a Godless world with morals, that we should be able to admit that those morals that we keep ( after throwing the concept of God away) had their foundation in "God".

  Except that the morals from God are horrible, many people that have never heard of God have fine morals and many that don't believe in God have better morals that people that do (depending on the poeple). I reject the notion that God is responsible for morals in the whole.

  History has should the the god fearing and the godless have BOTH commited enough attrocities that the evidence shows that it is MAN and MAN NATURE that motivates them, not God.

  You don't get to count the hits and blame the misses. If man if responsible for the atrocities, then he is also responsible for the goodness.
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  The Value of a Godless World

  by cantleave in

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  thought provoking.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42rhvmnuaa&feature=uploademail.

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  WHich would make your issues with the "horrific" OT God, simply personal and cultural?

  No, his actions make him horrific. Genocide and baby killing are wrong, end of story.

  Don't sell them short, numberwise that are already ahead.

  In percentage of population at the time of the massacre, not even close. Weapons technology and population in the last century exploded, thus the numbers of deaths went up.

  In a statistical sense, religion is way ahead. Heck, in the bible alone more people died because of god than anyone else.