sizemik
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Circuit Overseer talking Ray Franz in talk this morning (Phone number included)
by LightsOut ini'm still a semi member of the kh but not at all active and have major doubts when i started reading all kinds of opposing literature.
talked to elders about this and also my father but my father but he still believes it's the "truth".
anyways jist of this story is i gave my father a copy of "crisis of conscience".
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sizemik
LightsOut . . . you've raised your doubts with the Elders . . . given your Dad a copy of C o C (to which he hasn't responded) . . . and then been invited to the CO's talk on "Ray Franz" (which means he may have mentioned you to him)
That could be sailing close to the wind . . . just saying . . . if you're baptised . . . watch your back friend
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Life after death
by truthseeker ineveryone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .
what are your views on life after death?.
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I'm not fully convinced either way . . .
But one of the most compelling phenomenon I've encountered was a television series here in NZ entitled "Sensing Murder".
Each program involved "psychics" helping Police to uncover new facts on unsolved murder cases. The same "psychics" were involved all the way through. They were able to find the murder sites unaided and to reveal details, all of which were in harmony with the confidential police files. Other details were fresh and even led to some arrests. During the course of thier "work" they would openly communicate with the deceased and describe thier appearance and key personal details about them that were later verified with family members etc. Even while trying to hold a healthy skepticism the evidence was quite compelling.
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I'm not an expert on "Dinosaurs" . . . so are alligators and crocodiles remnants of the dinosaur age?
If so . . . Noah must have had them on his little wooden boat . . . so they could technically have been pets.
In that case the answer would be "yes"
now where do we go?
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showdown at midnight with jw dad
by JunkYardDog inbastard call me up at midnight to tell how great the wt is.wtf i was sleeping.
i gave him a half hour lesson about the cross and how long it took jesus to die.
and how the torture stake would only keep you alive for about less than 30 minutes if that.
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some had hell to walk through and hate their parents or at least one of them with a passion. so what?
If you're OK with hating someone with a passion for the rest of you're life . . . yeah so what? . . . go for it . . . it can only do you good right?
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showdown at midnight with jw dad
by JunkYardDog inbastard call me up at midnight to tell how great the wt is.wtf i was sleeping.
i gave him a half hour lesson about the cross and how long it took jesus to die.
and how the torture stake would only keep you alive for about less than 30 minutes if that.
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I agree with Black Sheep regarding sticking to a single topic . . . otherwise it simply comes across as an attack or self-justification, both of which will get nowhere. It only takes one pin to burst a bubble.
How you present the topic however is crucial, and only each individual can be truly cognisant of his/her particular situation along with thier own true motive . . . so it's impossible for others to judge this.
With regard to method . . . I've always felt Aesop's Fable about the argument between the Sun and the Wind holds a valuable lesson.
Also a well known adage holds true . . .
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
It doesn't hurt to change one's approach occasionally In JYD's case . . . I think his OP makes clear his intention . . . what I can't understand is his reason for posting it . . . approval perhaps? . . . someone to cheer him on? . . . well he won't get that from me. -
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Well this thread has been quite an education for a lil' ol' country boy from downunder
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What was your reaction when first introduced to the "1914" doctrine?
by highdose ini studied the paradise book, you may remember there was a whole chapter it in about the dream, the tree getting chopped down, time, time and half a time etc.
now i was very young ( but of course spirtualy mature (!
) when i studied this but i remember seeing the person explain this doctrine to me and it was like.... " ok now you see this scripture here?
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in our defense i would like to point out that the doctrine of the JW's in the early 80's was alot more plausible than it is now.
Excellent point Heaven. Yes, I recall at my indoctrination period there was a real optimism among everybody. Lot's of socialising and eager anticipation. The doctrines at that time seemed more cogent and scripturally sound than the mishmash that has emerged since.
Additionally, the internet had not been established and external information on the Society was not easy to find. Few people outside of the cult new anything about them. I think we forget how dark the "information world" was then and how the internet has impacted on the situation since. It's lit up the darkness a lot.
The fact remains . . . we've had our eyes opened . . . and we've responded appropriately.
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Conspiracy theorists
by JimmyPage insome here like to perpetuate the idea that there is a hidden group lurking in the shadows playing democrats and republicans against each other for their own benefit... or that a new world order is about to annihilate herds of common men to stay in power.. please name one specific living person who is a member of this elite group..
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I was . . . in all reality . . . expecting a long wait for the list of elite conspirators . . . I'm on to my second bowl already.
I'll have to take a heart pill if this keeps up
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Songs that Seem to Celebrate Leaving the WTS
by blondie inwell, i heard some people talkin?
just the other day.
and they said you were gonna put me on a shelf.
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sizemik
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