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  Is Shunning a Form of Bullying?

  by I quit! in

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  if it were done by a group of children in school to another student the school would consider it a form of bullying.

  are dubs bullying other dubs when they do this?

  to me it seems like a form childish behavior that you would only expect to see in grade school..

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  @ Essan . . .

  Yes, in fact I think bullying is a rather weak term for it

  I agree wholeheartedly. When quite young I was exposed to "institutionalised violence". It took the form of regular and sometimes injury causing violence that could not be countered . . . it had to be endured passively. The physical injuries would heal of course but the psychological scars remain with me over 40 years later. This experience has always been termed and referred to as "bullying", but in fact it was worse than that. Shunning on the other hand I believe is even worse than that again . . . much worse. Psychological torture is not an overstatement in my opinion.

  @ Moshe . . .

  Additionally, in past times banishment was the equivalent of a death sentence

  You raise an appropriate parallel. As I read that I was reminded of the Mosaic Law provision of banishment to the "cities of refuge" . . . not too unlike the shunning arrangement . . . and reserved for those under sentence of death.
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  What would the world be like if everybody was a Jehovah Witnesses

  by TotallyADD in

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  on the news the other day they showed a young man after graduating from high school went out and got drunk and had a bad car accident.

  he was paralyze from the waist down.

  instead of going into deep depression of what he did to himself he started his life over and went to college and was involved in inventing a exoskeleton for disable people.

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  As for the paralysed young man . . . not being out in FS? . . . needing a ride to the meetings? . . . I'm picking he'd be a very lonely and depressed individual right now . . . I guess he could do a correspondence degree on the internet . . . oh dear . . . I guess he couldn't.
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  showdown at midnight with jw dad

  by JunkYardDog in

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  bastard call me up at midnight to tell how great the wt is.wtf i was sleeping.

  i gave him a half hour lesson about the cross and how long it took jesus to die.

  and how the torture stake would only keep you alive for about less than 30 minutes if that.

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  there's nothing wrong with hating someone.

  Osama Bin Laden hated Americans . . . apparently many felt there was somthing wrong with that.
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  How would you respond to this JW apologist II - THE SEQUEL

  by Black Man in

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  as you know, i'm embroiled in a family and internet debate/dialogue w/jws the last few days.

  and you all have been helping get great points in.

  the text that i'm about to post come from a jw apologist who has acknowledge some of my comments about jws being a cult and that no tolerance for questioning them is one of the signs of a cult.

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  Strange . . . JW's usually pride themselves on being seperate from false religion . . . no part of BTG . . . and this poster is justifying them by pointing out what they have in common? That puts them alongside false religion . . . not seperate from it . . . just a thought.
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  An Intro and apology.

  by Slidin Fast in

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  i have been an avid reader on this site for a few years and have weighed in on a few topics and introduced a few more without introducing myself.

  for this i apologise.

  the main reason for my reticence is that being a second generation born in but having been baptised in the 50s i will find it difficult to make an introduction without giving the game away.

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  Welcome to the board Slidin Fast (officially) . . . interesting account.

  You seem to have the WT pretty well summed up. Your current dilemma is shared by a number here as you probably already know. For that reason . . . it's a good place to be while the dilemma persists. All the best to you.
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  How would you respond to this JW apologist??

  by Black Man in

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  hey all - as some of you may know, i've been engaged in a pretty big debate with family members as well as internet acquaintances over whether the jw's are a cult.

  thanks to everyone who have posted links to threads that have helped me in my dialogue with them - its actually working.

  the latest is that one of the posters i've been dialoging and he says that agrees with me on many points but he brought up the following response and i ask (how would you respond to this) that i have posted below (by the way, the person he references as gq is me - its my username on that web site):.

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  Jehovah jammed the gun for him while he was behaving like a criminal? . . . I have no idea how to counter that type of thinking and venture to say that few, if any, could.

  Sorry I can't offer anything of substance . . . but in the words of Mr Joe Walsh . . . "You can't argue with a sick mind"

  I think only a highly trained psychologist could counter this thinking . . . and even then it would need his co-operation.

  But that's just my opinion . . . maybe someone knows better?
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  Real Jehovah's Witnesses (djeggnog, StandFirm, etc), I'm trying to understand you.

  by pirata in

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  i'm an active jehovah's witness.

  i've obviously lost my faith, that's why i don't feel bad posting here anymore.

  i'd probably be disfellowshipped as a division causing, teaching, apostate, faster than you can say "maher-shalal-hash-baz" (isaiah 8:1), should it be found out that i was posting here and did not repent of the things i've said and stop participating in this forum.

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  Here's the deal my friend: If this message were about saving lives and reaching every possible person, we'd be using every method possible. The fact that we don't betrays something VERY wrong with the leadership of this organization. If the money used to print all the endless tracts were instead used for actual advertising for say, conventions and the memorial, you would see a response so big it would knock your socks off. But why don't they do this? I do not know, it doesn't make a bit of sense to me at all.

  It makes perfect sense to me. The WT are targetting the vulnerable which the door to door ministry allows them to do in a clandestine, insidious fashion. The use of mass media would draw too much attention and publicity to them, and place them under more scrutiny and subsequent criticism than they have to endure at present. Thier high-control reactions to current threats such as the internet are keeping them busy enough.

  Thier tactic is to "fly beneath the radar" of scrutiny, reaching the "target market" as unobserved as possible. Thier attention is already shifting to areas of opportunity (under-developed nations) where the technology is not such a threat. Hence the need for the "simplified" magazine publications.

  That's why the above multiple poster is completely out of step with the "slave" and always will be. The GB will never approve such methods. They are totally counter-productive, which some just cannot seem to see, thankfully.
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  The treasure I just now found ...

  by compound complex in

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  wishing all of you a happy sunday.

  this morning i was unpacking family heirlooms that have been some six months in storage.

  in the bottom of a cranberry glass dessert dish was what i took to be a tiny curtain ring.

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  A moment in time now carved in stone . . . great find C o C . . . and something you can always have so close . . . better reminder than a knot in your hankerchief!

  I have a letter my Grandfather wrote to my Grandmother before they married. It was while he was 19 years old and pinned down in the trenches of Passchendaele, Belgium, in 1917. He wrote with such reassurance for the sake of his sweetheart, whereas in reality his friends were dying all around him, as I later learned. He was one of only two out of his gun crew of 12 that survived the battle. He was a very lovely man and my boyhood hero. It is such a treasure. They are wonderful things to have.
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  Big surprise for me

  by mouthy in

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  two days ago!!!

  a man i knew in england.his wife was a jw he wasnt.... i knew she had ran off with the elder..1999..was df so was the elder.. they were then reinstated -she divorced alan #1 !!!!

  & married the elder another .

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  LOL @ mouthy . . . my wife's birthday is the 20th! (54 shhhh) . . . so we'll be able to eat drink and be merry before we all go off to hell in a handbasket on the 21st! . . . LOL.

  Nice thread . . . glad you had a great time . . . don't be sad . . . there'll be more to come.
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  To All the Kind Ones On JWN

  by snowbird in

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  i simply want to say "thank you.".

  syl.

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  Yah . . . I get your humour BP . . . . warped and twisted as it is LOL

  Here's a picture of us . . . just so you'll recognise us when we come and throw stones on your roof . . .