omg, today is the forum's 12th birthday !.
omg x 2 - i said the word 'birthday' and no-one was beheaded !
lol.
Happy Birthday JWN!
By the time I got here the worst was over (Living down under often makes you late). But coming here restored my faith in my own judgement and in humanity. No small thing.
Thanks to everyone who's made it possible . . . you're awesome people.
From the bottom of the world . . . and the bottom of my heart.
The swear police are seldom on patrol . . . but a complaint will get action.
I guess we should be able to make a point without it . . . but . . .
as i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?
why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?
it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.
In your very next post to this thread, I would ask you to list my lies -- no, not "lies" -- I want you to just name one of my so-called lies, @sizemik, ok? Just one. I'm looking forward to reading all about it. . . . Eggy
Oh for Pete's sake man . . . do we have to do that particular pantomime all over again? There's plenty of examples here,here and here. Read all about it and take your pick . . . they're chock full of your deceitfulness.
I've been meaning to tell you that I don't see any reason why you have to be a jerk, so why do you behave this way toward me? I mean, if you know, I'd be interesting in knowing how you would answer to this question. Thanks. . . . Eggy
The same threads will answer that question too . . . I don't like deceivers.
Flatter me by calling me "young man", I don't mind. I'm probably much older than you . . . most people my age have progressed past the naieve and exuberant arrogance you display, dealt with the embarrassment of realisation, and grown up.
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
I'm sure there are folks out there that have had similar experiences.
VERY similar . . . I prayed for months, sometimes through tears, and pleaded night after night . . .
I began to take PERSONAL credit for my accomplishments and feelings, as well as my transgressions. I finally felt free.
Likewise . . . I also learned that I was the only one who could truly forgive me for my transgressions. I am the only one who knows the truth about the reasons why . . . and whether or not I had done all I could, and whether I was truly remorseful. Having another persons forgiveness to appease your conscience is meaningless, and sometimes even an excuse in advance. Remaining true to self is far more difficult . . . but freedom and peace is also found there.
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
The truth that makes men free is, for the most part, the truth which men prefer not to hear. - Herbert Agar
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.” - Albert Einstein
so after 18 years (since the age of 5) i have converted from the jws to protastant christianity.
i have been biblically shown what i believe to be truths about the trinity, hell, and heaven (ideas that i debated against classical christians for many years) since i left the witnesses.
i read a lot of things on this site (as well as others) that really confuses me.
They stop seeking God and seem to just forget about Him. Why is this?
Good question bushido8000 . . .
I think it just seems that way. Speaking for myself, I don't see my atheism as a conclusive determination, ie; a belief. It's purely an acknowledgement of the fact that all the touted God concepts in existence today don't satisfy my sense of logic, nor find evidential support.
Atheism for me, is not a static point of destination . . . but rather a new starting point of discovery with all the bullshit cleared away.
I haven't ruled out God in the search for truth. I'm more than happy for him to show up as part of the equation at any stage . . . but the evidence suggests it won't be any of the "Gods" worshipped currently.
every year i attend, missing only 5 in 50 years.. i do not attend meetings nor active in anyway, my family shun me,(all devote believers) but i do feel drawn to attend each year.
i am out for sure, but i no longer have faith, or a belief in any religous body as being approved by god.. i am so screwed up now i not sure if i believe in a creator!, let alone who or what that may be.. i was born into the truth, married into the truth and my ex is devote.. i could never return to the cult now seeing it for what it is.. i served, donated, slaved for years happy to do so as has all my family.. i went out of my way to get df, sort of a wanting to die act, of rejecting the society.. i used to sit in a movie in my youth and think, wow i am so lucky, all these people are going to die and i will live forever.. even just typing this gives release to my emotions,, lol,,, yea i have many emotions,,, many regrets, basically the organisation i followed and the instructions destroyed my life in every possible way.. the power plays that i witnessed within are what first woke me up,,,at first i let it go, forgiving those involved as brothers do.
but again and again power and position is and was the thing to have, you got the power you got everything.
... this is not my "brutal" mode; it's more of my "kind" mode. . . . Eggy
... why not try to guess the mode I'm in as I now go on to respond to ... . . . Eggy
FYI, I've written all of this in "bored out of my skull" mode. . . . Eggy
So you're a man of many modes . . . wow what a surprise.
If you ever click into "normal mode" . . . you may get to see what you've written above for the stream of narcissistic drivel that it is.
lets's go!!.
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suffocating.
violated
"there was no doubt in my mind that he was talking directly to me.
he said being assertive isn't a luxury, it's our inalienable right.
we don't have to feel quilty about it.
I'll give you another quote is that right? It's from the same publication to make it easier.
"The phone rang at the Save the Whale Sperm Bank. . . . N.drew
It's not about whales or sperm. . . . N.drew
To be fair . . . the subject was touched on.
