Posts by sizemik

so there is this girl, well this is not young she is a few years older then me about 3. but the other young people were "hitting" on her you know what i mean, but she does not like anyone of them because they really boring, and they just talk, talk and they don't show any interesting in her, i was the only one that sent her a sms when she was sick.

sizemik

Sounds like a clear case of Jealousy Snowboarder . . . take it as a compliment . . . the girl sees straight through it . . . and she strikes me as the only one worth the time of day as a person among the whole sorry lot of them

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Two JWs accused of attacking priest in Armenia

by behemot in

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police identified two jehovahs witnesses who attacked priestmay 18, 2011 - 19:24 amtpanarmenian.net - armenian police identified the two followers of jehovahs witnesses sect, suspected of attacking a priest yesai artenyan.. the sectarians, andranik mnatsakanyan and samvel grigoryan were summoned to a police station to give evidence.. a case has not been instigated yet.

the attacked priest is to be examined by an expert in forensic medicine.. according to media reports, on may 15, two followers of jehovahs witnesses sect attacked yesai artenyan and beat him in the yard of the holy trinity church in response to the priests demand to stop preaching in the church territory.

the beating was accompanied by bad language and threats.. source: http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/society/news/70265/police_identified_two_jehovahs_witnesses_who_attacked_priest.

sizemik

It certainly doesn't sound like normal JW behavior . . . but there have been a lot of loony types associating . . . even among the baptised . . . who take the teachings on BTG . . . the harlot . . . under Satans control etc etc . . . a little too far. So while neither condoned or intended by JW teaching . . . this probably lies behind it tto some degree nevertheless. They certainly don't espouse religious tolerance, nor engender it.

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Feeling Lost

by faundy in

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i used to come on this site a lot more but drifted away.

the thing is that recently, i've been thinking a lot more about my life, and its lack of direction, and purpose.

i'm in a good relationship, i have great friends and support if i need it.

sizemik

I know how you are feeling faundy . . . believe me I do. I too suffer from depression/anxiety although in recent times I have been able to divest myself of dependence on meds . . . it has taken many years however.

I take a lot of stock from Christs warning to "be on your guard against men" . . . and apart from his own words, much of what we come to read or believe is just that . . . the words of men. In time I felt a personal connection with Christ . . . not so much as a person, but as a reflection of all that is good about humanity. It is a connection that finds a good deal of agreement with the "inner person" and so does not need the intermediary involvement of men or man-made institutions. It's hard to explain, but I feel it harmonises with the energy that animates us and inhabits all of the physical world. It's almost a trust that develops . . . which dispels all fear and uncertainty. It allows me to live and accommodate the "unknown" knowing that I cannot be accountable for that which I cannot know for sure, and therefore is not fully trustworthy. This has come to mean for me "faith" . . . not in the declarations or assertions of men, but in the goodness of the source of my reason for being.

In this way Christ becomes "the way and the truth and the life" to me. If I may suggest . . . read his words as much as you can . . . in it's pure narrative form . . . and get a feel for the nature of his teaching rather than looking for knowledge or instruction . . . pray to him also . . . and give some time to the process . . . periods of doubt and uncertainty will come and go . . . but for me . . . in time I found harmony . . . and it is dependent on nothing and nobody, and so cannot be taken away.

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Feeling Lost

by faundy in

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i used to come on this site a lot more but drifted away.

the thing is that recently, i've been thinking a lot more about my life, and its lack of direction, and purpose.

i'm in a good relationship, i have great friends and support if i need it.

sizemik

I think that a creator would like to see his children , happy, kind, generous, loving towards his other children etc. Whilst I do not wish to hold to one particular set of beliefs, I do find alot of the above aspects, well defined in Buddhism. As for the meaning of life (wow): Everyone that has ever lived .....has died. I will too. Whilst waiting for that, and in the same spirit as above, my purpose has become, to be there for the people I love, so they can count on me, and eventually so they can go on without me, smiling, when they recall the good times we shared.

Great thoughts jlp . . . I hold a very similar sentiment. I felt a deep void for many years also (I guess we all do). I have not studied Buddhism at all but did look to Science and what can be regarded as provable fact . . . beginning with the building blocks of the physical world. I found that at this stage . . . there are none . . . just energy expressing itself to our five senses. Along the way I came across the philosophies of Albert Einstein . . . a great philosopher and humanitarian as well as Scientist. I have not left off entirely reading scripture either, but find myself only drawn to the words attributed to Jesus Christ. Strangely there is almost full agreement between the philosophies of Einstein and the recommendations of Christ as to how one should live his life.

Through different roads, we arrived at a very similar destination . . . and I feel inside no future threat from the source of life . . . rather, a sense of harmony . . . with whomever and whatever that may be.

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Most entertaining platform misdeed.

by Slidin Fast in

many years ago before assembly halls we used to hire large halls for circuit assemblies.

the public talk, always after lunch on the sunday was always the big (though boring) event.

the chairman sat on the stage all the time whilst the speaker for the hour long talk droned on.

sizemik

Amelia . . . that's not gross so much as bloody hilarious!

watersprout . . . what a heartless prick! . . . to publicly humiliate a child like that is typical of JW Authorities attitude to children . . . very uncaring!

teel . . . you reminded me of a situation that developed in an old congo many years ago. The next door neighbours had been "at war" with the congo ever since the hall was built . . . they hated the cars piling up on the street outside on a regular basis, as the hall had very little off-street parking.

During the watchtower study, every time the paragraph was read there was a loud drum roll and clash of symbols from next door, and then silence while the question was read. The timing was impeccable but most just assumed it was coincidental. Until we got to about paragraph four . . . and there it was again right on cue. It then dawned on one of the brothers what was happening. We had recently set up the phone-in system and the teenage lad next door had secured himself a hookup and was listening to the program on his headset . . . and providing the musical accompaniment.

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Best old books for exposing the 1874/1914 fraud?

by Essan in

i'm looking for a couple of the society's old books, one just prior to 1914 the other in the 1920's (as late as possible), which would show what the society was actually saying about 1914 in the run up to that year and that they were still promoting 1874 as the year of christ's presence for many years after 1914.. .

basically i'm looking for recommendations for two of their old books which would do the most damage to the modern jw claims about their past and show they could not have fulfilled prophesy or "qualified" for anything back then, as they claim.. .

there must be a couple of books which are really dynamite, choc full of nonsense and failed predictions.

sizemik

bookmarked

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How far will you let people go?

by Lozhasleft in

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reading the thread about people self destructing on here combined with some experiences of my own has set me thinking.. i seem to have developed an intolerance to any kind of abusive behaviour.

of course none of us should tolerate serious abuse, i do realise that.

but whereas in the past and particularly whilst a jw i learnt to turn the other cheek or ignore as best i could any insults/sniping/snide comments from whoever fired them at me....now i simply cant.. its as if i have 'found' that i am worth more...that its totally unacceptable, and i wont allow it.

sizemik

Interesting thread Loz . . .

There is discomfort in being on the recieving end of aggresive and abusive behavior. But, as you mentioned, there can be discomfort in simply walking away from it or worse, confronting it. I've found myself walking away from what I've percieved as aggressive or confrontational approaches or behavior, only to experience or observe the same person in quite different mode, and still having something valuable to offer. I'm left wondering . . . what went wrong?

Some years back I encountered a thing called "Transactional Analysis". The model was developed primarily for facilitating effective business communication, but has a great deal of validity in everyday situations. It basically breaks modes of communication down into the Adult,Parent, and Child ego states (which are present in all of us) and analyzes which state is dominating during communication . . . and best of all . . . how to counter the dominant negative ego in others.

There is a basic breakdown of the model at . . . http://www.businessballs.com/transactionalanalysis.htm

While not being a fix-all when dealing with aggressive and asshole behavior . . . I personally have found it quite helpful. At the very least it gives a reason for negative communication styles and leaves the blame where it belongs . . . and I can feel better about my own ego-state. The model also fits comfortably along side most of the positive points made in the posts added thus far . . . some of which have been good stuff.