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  RUTHERFORD - Alive and well?

  by sizemik in

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  many here are familiar with this entry in wikipedia .

  for those that aren't, here's a link;.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/joseph_franklin_rutherford.

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  sizemik

  Thanks for that TotallyADD . . . It appears to me that the Judge was not "followed" as a leader because of his personal attributes. I feel it's more like he hijacked a concept along with it's organisation and breathed his stinking personality all over it. It wouldn't surprise me if he was disliked by a good many . . . but nobody would say so of course.

  The tight control is one feature of Rutherford reflected in the cult today.

  "Austerity", while not being thier term of choice, is still a policy they persue with rules on college attendance and the unreasonable push for full-time workers . . . austerity fosters dependance.

  And the subjugation of women is still very real in the organisation also. There are some things Rutherford innoculated this Religion with that have never gone away.

  The families of former times must have had no end of challenges, living by those principles. But it's not much better now . . . they're still stuffing up lives big time. It is indeed a sickness.
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  Went to an interesting party last night

  by Aussie Oz in

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  2. friends

  went to my sister in laws place for a pizza party... brother in law had built an outdoor pizza oven and this was its unveiling of sorts.

  the night was also for two birthdays and a loose rapture party as well.. the guest list?.

  an ex jw, a jw daughter, athiests, a pair of assembly of god pastors and a couple of satanists complete a boy called lucifer.... the best part?

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  Their kid is called Lucifer?

  Someones got to get the oven hot BP LOL
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  Went to an interesting party last night

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  went to my sister in laws place for a pizza party... brother in law had built an outdoor pizza oven and this was its unveiling of sorts.

  the night was also for two birthdays and a loose rapture party as well.. the guest list?.

  an ex jw, a jw daughter, athiests, a pair of assembly of god pastors and a couple of satanists complete a boy called lucifer.... the best part?

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  The power of the pizza oven brother!

  Seriously . . . nice that people can leave their "wheelbarrows" at the door and be human beings only . . . "it's easy if you try" as a great musician once said. Good to hear it.

  So what was dessert? . . . fruit salad?
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  No Rapture But JW's Shown 2 B The True Idiots

  by Pig in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  loved this article in australia.

  five other end-of-world predictions: .

  1. followers of william miller believed the world would end on october 22, 1844.. 2.the jehovah's witness religion has predicted the end of the world in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994.. 3. charles wesley, founder of the methodist church, predicted the world would end in 1794.. 4. famous forecaster nostradamus predicted doomsday would happen in july 1999.. 5. english mystic joanna southcott predicted the world would end on october 19, 1814, when she gave birth to the messiah.. .

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  Witnesses have never predicted prophesies.

  Ignoring the tautology in his wording . . . we know this is a provable lie.

  And yet I think people say these things knowing they are misrepresenting the truth . . . but for some higher purpose . . . defending thier faith, championing God's organisation, fighting theocratic warfare, or something. I think they honestly believe it's OK to do that. It's like they're trained to lie "for the truth". Notice how he quotes the scriptures and immediately becomes all "preachy".
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  Should False Prophets be sued for fraud?

  by Aussie Oz in

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  2. friends

  billions of dollars are generated and poured into ministries like campings, people have again done what they did in millers day, in 75, and again right now.. believers sell belongings, donate their money and time to these sort of cons, basically bankrupt themselves for the prophet who later gets to cry 'no foul'.

  while we may mock (and rightly so) miller, russell, rutherford, the wt, camping and all the others of the same ilk, what about those suckered in?

  some of them are now bust just like in the previous mentioned examples times as well.. what massive culpability must these ones bare?

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  Go easy on me Steve . . . I used to be desperate.
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  Attack and Destroy, New JW Policy

  by eruption in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so now we know, that anyone who partakes of the emblems,he/ she will now have the stigma of being labeled mentally ill bestowed on them, by whom ?

  by the same people who are supposed to be caring for them, step forward the governing body.. now think about it, if this is the way they treat thier most ardent supporters, you would not want these people as your enemys, why ?, because they (and i choose my words carefully ) are psychopaths, how so ?

  because if you attack the jw bottom line, $$$$$ then they react like any corp, they attack and destroy, in this case even the annointed, if they are not safe from attack who is ?.

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  The reason the annointed even exist is because the numbers got too big years ago and Armageddon hadn't come . . . so they invented the other sheep. It fits very well with the shadowy FDS . . . which has no say anyway because it doesn't really exist beyond a number on a page. The FDS concept is something they identify as leading them to deflect attention away from the "cult leaders" . . . the most influential on the GB. The R&F who "buy in" may have delusions of grandeur, but are just as removed from the controlling authority as everybody else. The buzz they create among the congregations reinforces the whole deception. It's like a self-perpetuated never-ending cycle of wierd.
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  No Rapture But JW's Shown 2 B The True Idiots

  by Pig in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  loved this article in australia.

  five other end-of-world predictions: .

  1. followers of william miller believed the world would end on october 22, 1844.. 2.the jehovah's witness religion has predicted the end of the world in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994.. 3. charles wesley, founder of the methodist church, predicted the world would end in 1794.. 4. famous forecaster nostradamus predicted doomsday would happen in july 1999.. 5. english mystic joanna southcott predicted the world would end on october 19, 1814, when she gave birth to the messiah.. .

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  LOL . . . how much rougher does 135 have to get before it's no longer considered 100?
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  thoughts on this old man's death?

  by Hobo Ken in

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  claude choules, the only remaining male veteran of world war i and the last person to have served in both world wars, has died, the royal australian navy said in a statement.

  will this have any impact in the minds of jw's?.

  the knowledge that no one who was of reasonable age to witness 1914 are still alive surely must resonate with some.. full article here.

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  He was 110.

  My Grandfathers generation . . . he fought in WW1 . . . if he were alive today he'd be 112 . . . he died in 1970.

  Definitely feels like the last of a generation to me.
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  Should False Prophets be sued for fraud?

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  billions of dollars are generated and poured into ministries like campings, people have again done what they did in millers day, in 75, and again right now.. believers sell belongings, donate their money and time to these sort of cons, basically bankrupt themselves for the prophet who later gets to cry 'no foul'.

  while we may mock (and rightly so) miller, russell, rutherford, the wt, camping and all the others of the same ilk, what about those suckered in?

  some of them are now bust just like in the previous mentioned examples times as well.. what massive culpability must these ones bare?

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  When I worked for a few years as a Real Estate Agent . . . every word that came out of my mouth was a "representation" that had to be true and accurate. If someone suffered economic loss as a result of mis-representation by me . . . I'd get burned for it.

  I don't see a difference here . . . deception, misrepresentation, economic loss . . . they should be burnable.

  Religious freedom is an illusion . . . and an illusionists paradise.
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  could Campings flop snowball?

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in 1975, the only way the wt could get the message out was via their own pulp mags, with a few bits of media taking note.

  it must be said that it really was not only a flop for the jws, but not even newsworthy by todays standards.

  by and large, most of the world were unaware of it all.. but fast forward to the internet and we can see how camping was able to go global in just a few months and reach far more people with the 'message' than jws could have hoped to reach in decades of door knocking.. and global are the repercussions for camping and his followers.

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  cantleave . . . I just can't be so sure . . . hinting at a date is soooooo tempting . . . and works quite well . . . will they be able to resist?

  Stupidity has been present for 130 years now as far as "prophecy" goes . . . why stop now?

  I think they are stupid enough . . . give them time.