Posts by LucidSky

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Soul vs spirit. How do JW's explain these scriptur

by betweenworlds in

i know there must be a way that they explain these scriptures.

genesis 35:18 and the result was that as her soul was going out (because she died) she called his name benoni.

1 kings 17:21 and he proceeded to stretch himself upon the child three times and call to jehovah and say" "o jehovah my god, please cause the soul of this child to come back within him.".

LucidSky

Understanding the soul as an immortal entity allows quite a few of those instances to be reconciled with a single meaning of the word, which seems to be more logical to me.

Except the ones where it says the soul dies...

A single word could have multiple meanings especially when being translated, right? The word 'spirit' seems to mean wind, ethereal beings, inner courage, etc. They have a common tie to some invisible power. To me, the meanings of soul has ties to a single living and conscious being. It is only a body after death. So in general I would say, spirit + body = soul.

Jim (if you are the real Jim Penton) - I enjoyed your book. It was one of the first I read as I left the org. If only the Society would adopt it instead of the Proclaimers book.

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I'm getting another tattoo

by LB in

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friends

most likely in the next week or two.

it's the last one i'll get, but i have a need.. i'm not going to get one from this artist though, he doesn't seem committed to giving the customer what he really wants.

still i give him credit for being creative..

LucidSky

LMAO!!

I would like to get a tattoo too in the next month or two. Something Celtic of my own design. Right shoulder blade.

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Evidence for Evolution?

by LucidSky in

all historical and archeological evidence aside, the biggest evidence that convinced me evolution is factual is speciation (also called "micro-evolution").

this is the transformation of one species into two such that the two can no longer interbreed.

there is no need for historical evidence to prove this -- cases of speciation have actually been observed.

LucidSky

just as there is no need to take crackpots who believe a global flood happened a few thousand years ago seriously

Hey, now! This crackpot used to believe that back in the day too!

I don't see why mutation would not be an acceptable mechanism for change. Many diseases and cancers are caused by mutation, as are improvements - such as bacterial resistance. Natural selection will weed out the deleterious mutations and keep the rest.

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Evidence for Evolution?

by LucidSky in

all historical and archeological evidence aside, the biggest evidence that convinced me evolution is factual is speciation (also called "micro-evolution").

this is the transformation of one species into two such that the two can no longer interbreed.

there is no need for historical evidence to prove this -- cases of speciation have actually been observed.

LucidSky

I also can't see how people who wish to believe creation would even want to argue that God may have used evolution .IMO

Just wanted to add that I don't think its that unreasonable to believe in both creation and evolution.

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Evidence for Evolution?

by LucidSky in

all historical and archeological evidence aside, the biggest evidence that convinced me evolution is factual is speciation (also called "micro-evolution").

this is the transformation of one species into two such that the two can no longer interbreed.

there is no need for historical evidence to prove this -- cases of speciation have actually been observed.

LucidSky

heathen - It would't matter if the fossil record doesn't show micro-evolution -- it has already been observed happening! New species have been created that could no longer interbreed with other members. Viola! a new species -- micro-evolution.

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Evidence for Evolution?

by LucidSky in

all historical and archeological evidence aside, the biggest evidence that convinced me evolution is factual is speciation (also called "micro-evolution").

this is the transformation of one species into two such that the two can no longer interbreed.

there is no need for historical evidence to prove this -- cases of speciation have actually been observed.

LucidSky

Sorry about the long posts Lucid.

hooberus, just wanted you to be aware my attention span is only about 3 paragraphs or less!

Can you tell me what evidences are weighing against macro-evolution? I am still looking for answers. I don't, however, believe that anything is wrong with adapting theories to fit new discoveries -- religion and science both do this.

Yes, atheist scientists could be just as zealous about naturalism as a creationist. I would think the least biased scientist would be someone who is neither atheist nor theist.

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Evidence for Evolution?

by LucidSky in

all historical and archeological evidence aside, the biggest evidence that convinced me evolution is factual is speciation (also called "micro-evolution").

this is the transformation of one species into two such that the two can no longer interbreed.

there is no need for historical evidence to prove this -- cases of speciation have actually been observed.

LucidSky

Heathen: I don't believe evolutionists claim life formed through evolution. Life may or may not have formed by chance -- I have no idea. There are unknowns to the theory, but as a model it continues to be validated by the current evidence and new discoveries. Otherwise it would have been thrown out long ago.

How can you say that micro-evolution is non-existant?

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Evidence for Evolution?

by LucidSky in

all historical and archeological evidence aside, the biggest evidence that convinced me evolution is factual is speciation (also called "micro-evolution").

this is the transformation of one species into two such that the two can no longer interbreed.

there is no need for historical evidence to prove this -- cases of speciation have actually been observed.

LucidSky

Damn it! Will you guys quit posting other people's arguements and write ones yourself!

hooberus, tell me why you believe in special creation. Where would you draw the line? For example, did a horse and donkey have a common ancestor? I would say "yes".

heathen, I think diversity is merely indirect evidence for evolution but not proof, (yes, I am about to jump to conclusions...) but do you believe that Noah packed all that diversity into his ark?

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