I would never go back. The thought of going to a meeting makes me physically ill. I was talking to person at work about being an XJW and they asked me if I could join up again. I said it's not that easy and I wasn't sure if they would ever let me back in again and that It would take a lot of ass kissing on my part. I was just curious does anyone know an apostate that went back?
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Is it possible to go back after you are an Apostate?
by lv4fer inhow would you go back?
go to the elders and say i repent and know i'm was wrong.
i want to work towards getting reinstated?
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What's Your Opinion of Michael Jackson?
by minimus inis he a molester?
a nut?
a gifted musician??
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I thnk the parents of these kids need their head examined. I remember when he was at the Grammys with that really short black kid and all and thinking it was all a bit strange. I also remember telling my husband that I thought something wasn't quite right with him surrounding himself with kids and no one his own age Men or Women. I would not let my child boy or girl go over a grown man's house to "play" or stay the night. I don't care who he is. All the warning signals should go off. I think he is a nut and circumstancial evidence would definitely convict him. He has a lot of money and unfortunately may get off. Look at OJ...oh that's right he is innocent and looking feverishly for the killer to this day!!!!
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607? 587? What does it matter
by IP_SEC inpersonally i believe that 607 is not the right date, but here is another point of view.. does 607 or 587 or 609 or 586 or 1914 really matter?
yes but only after you have a pivotal date.
5 starting from the pivotal date.
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THIS IS A HUGE TOPIC! THis is what made me question my faith as a JW. When I realized they were wrong about 607 BCE It was all over for me. Everything falls apart after that. No 607 ....No 1914...No invisible coming...Jesus is yet to come....They are wrong....What else are they wrong about....God has never been wrong....This is not God's chosen org.....it is all over. Your life falls apart for awhile and then you start building up the pieces again.
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Is it possible to go back after you are an Apostate?
by lv4fer inhow would you go back?
go to the elders and say i repent and know i'm was wrong.
i want to work towards getting reinstated?
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Not that I ever would. How would you go back? Go to the Elders and say I repent and know I'm was wrong. I want to work towards getting reinstated? Then they would make you go to meetings for 6 months maybe a year with noone saying jack to you and once you've shown that you are sincere they reinstate you. Or is it that once you are an Apostate that is it for you no coming back?
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I think the jws might be right
by holly ini really like this board.
i hate making this statement bec i dont want you to all start hating me.
but since i came on here i have been researching a lot.
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The whole Other sheep and 144,000 is a bull. When Jesus said I have other sheep that are not of this fold he was saying that there would be Gentiles that would come in not Jewish (not of this fold). The hope for all Christians is a heavenly one. In Hebrews chapter 11 it even states that Abraham was looking forward to his heavenly reward. Jesus Christ is our Lord and God and Savior. IF you want to do some real investigating you should get yourself an Interlinear Bible you will see how they have messed up the Bible by putting their scriptural interpretation into that translation. THey are wrong about the Blood issue. THey change thier interpretaitons all the time and unfortunately people die because of their misinterpretations. Did you know they use to forbid vacinations because they said they were wrong. How many were harmed or died because of this. They also use to forbid transplants saying it was like eating someone else. Now it's a conscious matter. Oops we now have NEW LIGHT. sorry you let your child die but he will be ressurcted. That is another thing they don't believe in a resurrection they believe in a recreation of someone. I'm hard pressed to see what they believe that is accurate except they try to be love their neighbor as themself.... oh yeah they can't do that either Love other people who are witnesses and try to convert everyone else because they are WORLDLY.
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A Good Elder does not exist, because if he were truly good he would have left the org or at least stepped down and would be planning his exit. because as an elder that would mean that he is still misleading people.
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How can I find out what my standing in the Org is?
by lv4fer inthere was never an announcement made.
i wrote them a letter not a da letter, but essentially i told them that me and my family simply wanted to "cease to be involved with the faith" at the time on their web site it said that you would not be shunned if you simply ceased to be involved with the faith.
i also said if they made an announcement that i would sue them for slander.
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Thanks. I was just wondering. I have no reason to care except that my dad is still in and he asked me and I said I didn't know but that I was pretty sure I was just considered inactive officially. My husbands cousin, who is in elder in another congregation, inferred to my dad that we were disfellowshipped. SO that is why he asked me. I thought if I could just call up the society and ask them (I was thinking maybe they had a database with the info on it they could tell me.) I don't want to ask any elders from my old KH because I don't want them to think I care and that I might consdider their opinion important. I wouldn't want to be the individuals who have judged me when they go before Christ to answer to him.
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How can I find out what my standing in the Org is?
by lv4fer inthere was never an announcement made.
i wrote them a letter not a da letter, but essentially i told them that me and my family simply wanted to "cease to be involved with the faith" at the time on their web site it said that you would not be shunned if you simply ceased to be involved with the faith.
i also said if they made an announcement that i would sue them for slander.
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So then there is no way, short of my calling one of the elders of my old congregation, to find out what they labeled me as.
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How can I find out what my standing in the Org is?
by lv4fer inthere was never an announcement made.
i wrote them a letter not a da letter, but essentially i told them that me and my family simply wanted to "cease to be involved with the faith" at the time on their web site it said that you would not be shunned if you simply ceased to be involved with the faith.
i also said if they made an announcement that i would sue them for slander.
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There was never an announcement made. I wrote them a letter not a DA letter, but essentially I told them that me and my family simply wanted to "cease to be involved with the faith" At the time on their web site it said that you would not be shunned if you simply ceased to be involved with the faith. I also said if they made an announcement that I would sue them for slander. It's now almost 3 years later and I am wondering what am I. People don't talk to me, I know they think I'm an Apostate. I talked to the PO and he said no announcement was ever made. He said the reason people shun me is that they talk amoung themselves. It's not that I really care I'm just curious. If I called the society could I ask what my standing is with the organization. DO they keep a file on everyone? Maybe I'm inactive. If I started attendig meetings here I moved to a different state (not that I ever would) would I be able to just pick up where I left off and be a good JW? Or would they find out.
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Should I go sit at the kh next thurs when they announce my DF
by cindykp ini could get there early, and save you all some seats!
at least i would have someone to talk to after the meeting
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I wouldn't give them the benefit of my presence. The last meeting I went to was the memorial 2002. I was still trying to put on a happy face I didn't want my kids to loose all their friends. By this point it actually made me sick to my stomach and I had a feeling of anxiety my heart pounding ( I don't normally have anxiety problems) They sent us a letter saying we had been accused of apostasy and that we were to attend a jucdical committe etc. I called them and said that day was not good for my husband and I and we promptly wrote them a letter saying we were not Apostates of Jesus Christ, we believe in all of his teachings and live our lives according ly. I said if they made any announcement at the Kingdom Hall regarding me or my family I would consider it slander and I would retain a lawyer and sue them. They never said a thing to us after that. People started shunning us and I called up the PO and asked why people were shunning us, and if they had made an announcement of any sort. He assured me no DF or DA announcement had been made, but reminded me that people talk amongst themselves and that was probably why we were being shunned. MY Dad is still a witness and he says the rumor he heard is that we were df'd. So that is what people say. I've sinced moved to a different state and I really don't care.