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  McClintock & Strong's: Anybody Got 'Em?

  by Francois in

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  this is really sort of a response to another post about religious authority.. does member have a copy of the mcclintock strongs?.

  if anyone does, would you please look up and reproduce here the entry under "authority"?.

  a friend of mine (now ex, for the reason you would expect) had a copy of m&s and the entry under authority was very interesing indeed.

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  MacHislopp

  Hello Francois,

  thanks for the great question...

  and Alan: many thanks for your wonderful piece of

  research and quote.

  Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
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  A switch in time saves ?

  by ozziepost in

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  so often the publications employ argumentation that involves using a 'switch' whereby one untruth is 'switched' for a truth.

  all very deceptively, of course!.

  take as an example this innocent sounding statement from the revelation climax book:.

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  MacHislopp

  Hello Ozziepost,

  thanks for another of your brilliant...

  observation! Drilling...it's the right attitude from the

  WTBS, on and on and again and again...

  All the best to you and your wife,

  J.C.MacHislopp
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  TALK TRANSCRIPT Ciro Aulicino-Muslims

  by Dogpatch in

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  changed the lives of everyone in this country, including members of the bethel family, who had to see that [and] were traumatized.. .

  now we have been studying the bible for years and been preaching the good news of the kingdom and we have also been aware of developments that god's people have been notified through the pages of the watchtower and the awake!

  there are five developments, friends, that we're going to talk about, but i'd like to talk about the first one that we should expect to see.. .

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  MacHislopp

  Hello Dogpatch,

  thanks for this excellent..

  gem from our beloved "brother" Ciro Aulicino.

  I'll keep it on my file and will comment another

  time.

  Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
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  Bethelcoachtours offers visits to the UN....

  by Jourles in

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  2. friends

  yes, that is correct.

  bethel coach tours will make your trip to ny more enjoyable by taking you to the united nations building on a sightseeing trip.. as per their website:.

  we can even put together a very enjoyable sightseeing itinerary: empire state building, the world's largest macy's, historical south st. seaport, china town / little italy, united nations building, metropolitan, museum of art, statue of liberty, see a broadway play, times square, central park, woolworth building, chrysler building, or even a manhattan / ny / hudson river cruise!.

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  MacHislopp

  Hello Jourles,

  good post ! Thanks for the reminder.

  Surely ...nothing should surprise us anymore.

  Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
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  JW Numbers Are Set To Grow

  by Defender in

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  despite the lackluster records of jw number growth in the past 6 years, i believe that their numbers will start to swell again and remain high for at least another 10 years here is why.. the society is becoming more and more business like in its approach (especially after last year's re-org) on how to maintain and increase growth.

  the wts, like any corporation when it becomes acutely aware of stagnation, begins to formulate a number of new techniques in order to bolster its sagging membership or sales.

  this could include, tv ads (i believe intuit39 mentioned something to that effect), radio, newspaper and magazine ads and direct mailings.

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  MacHislopp

  Hello everyone,

  thanks for all the comments in this

  "interesting " post.

  Room 215 , excellent and logical expositions of facts:

  "How many of their teachings can withstand impartial objective scrutiny from neutral observers, especially with the internet to facilitate research, pro-and-con? Keep in mind that JWs have been to date able to rely on the public's ignorance of their past history with its scandals and failed predictions in order to make any progress at all with an unwary public. "

  Moman: good points too.

  Anewperson: I do agree with your comment

  Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
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  VERY interesting (April 1, 2002 WT, p.19)

  by stevieb1 in

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  2. friends

  this statement is prety interesting.

  it's taken from the very latest watchtower article (april 1, 2002) the final sentence of paragraph 14 reads:.

  "if jehovah's organization knowingly endorsed false teachings, advice to read the bible would never be given to jehovah's witnesses and those to whom they preach.".

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  MacHislopp

  Hello everyone,

  congratulations for this post.

  Excellent points Stevieb1 and Gopher!

  This one is for the file.

  Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
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  Social Security and Jws

  by badboy in

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  2. friends

  i am a severly disabled adult who receives disability benefits.. i understand sometime ago the watchtower said in one of its magazine(probably watchtower)that a smaller pertentage(sic)of jws claimed the dole in france(this was, i believe during the problems with the french government)as opposed to a higher pertentage(sic)of roman catholic etc etc claiming the dole.. in view of what paul says in one of his letter`he that doesn't work, shall not eat' should jws be claiming the dole if they truly follow the bible.

  discuss.. i believe a social security system should provide for the disabled and pensioners.

  (i don't think the present uk social security system will survive in its present form with accelerting(sic)costs etc etc)

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  MacHislopp

  Hello Badboy,

  sorry to read about your situation.

  I'll comment later. Reborn 2002: good comment!

  Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
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  End of Times/Anointed/WTBTS

  by MacHislopp in

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  sometime ago, the wtbts published.

  a watchtower study article,that.

  pointed to :.

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  MacHislopp

  Hello everyone,

  thanks for the comments...quite

  interesting. I'll come backon them.

  Pureheart: I'll keep you informed on the latest...

  viewpoint. Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
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  End of Times/Anointed/WTBTS

  by MacHislopp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sometime ago, the wtbts published.

  a watchtower study article,that.

  pointed to :.

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  MacHislopp

  Hello everyone,

  Sometime ago, the WTBTS published
  a watchtower study article,that
  pointed to :

  "…six lines of evidence proving that we are living in the last days of this ungodly world"

  (w. January 15,2000, pag. 12 §12)

  Just a page more and we could find
  this question on § 18th:

  " Evidently, what will be true of some of the anointed when the great tribulation begins, and how may this be determined?"

  Now, in the 18th paragraph we can
  read the following :

  "Sixth, the number of genuine anointed disciples of Christ is
  dwindling, though some will evidently still be on the earth
  when the great tribulation begins.
  Most of the remnant are quite elderly, and over
  The years the number of those who are truly anointed has been getting smaller. Yet, referring to the great tribulation, Jesus stated:" Unless
  those days were cut short, no flrsh would be saved;
  but on account of the chosen ones those days will
  be cut short." '(Matthew 24:21,22) Evidently, then,
  some of Christ's " chosen ones" will still be on earth when the great tribulation begins.*
  (*) The footnote mentions the parable of the sheep and the goats and the last part reads:

  " …This standard for judgment would be meaningless if at the time of judgment, all of Christ's brothers had long since left the earthly scene.-
  Matthew 25: 31-46 "(w. January 15,2000 p. 13 §18)

  Let's start with the comments:

  °Please note the frequent use of the words :
  evidence and evidently.
  Normally it's use implies that there is
  some evidence or some facts;

  ° Those "six lines of evidence " are …" proving ";

  °Notice the number of …." ge n u I n e anointed " and also the
  number of those who are …" t r u l y anointed ";
  Why the WTBS makes this remark???

  But what I do find really very, very interesting is this clear statement
  at the beginning of paragraph 18th - in italic the watchtower -

  "Sixth, the number of genuine anointed disciples of Christ is
  dwindling,…."

  Is it really so?? I do mean, taking all the written records, provided for everyone, in the WTBS own pubblications? Let's take the last 50 years.

  Number of anointed - in the year 1950 - ………..22,723

  Number of anointed -in the year 2001…………. 8,730

  So far it looks ..good.

  But if we check carefully the given figures, for all the years since
  1950 we do have some …surprises!

  1) It took 14 years to arrive to almost half of that number

  i.e. …..11,292 anointed in the year 1963;

  2) Then, strangely 38 years later i.e. the year 2001, we still

  have 8,730 anointed which means that after 38 years

  we have still 77,31 % of all the anointed ones, that were

  living in 1963!
  
  Remember: "… Most of the remnant are quite elderly,…"

  and : " …. the number of genuine anointed disciples

  of Christ is dwindling.."

  Is it me or else….?

  3) From 9,727 "anointed remnant "in the year 1979, it took
  
  21 years to see the number diminishing of about 1000

  (more precisely 997 ) ….to have 8,730 " anointed remnant",

  and all this by the year 2001.

  4) Yet, from the year 1989, total of 8,734 " anointed remnant"

  we arrive 12 years later, in the year 2001 and ….we have a

  total of 8,730 " anointed remnant "!!!

  In few words, it took - before - 21 years to " diminuish "
  
  of almost a thousand ….and now in 12 years the number

  of " anointed remnant " has decreased of "….4 " ???

  Surely something, somehow, somewhere doesn't tick….or
  
  it's me again???

  Your comments are welcome,

  Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
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  WTBS and Christian religion

  by MacHislopp in

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  2. friends

  i would like to share with you some thoughts.

  -"... organized christian religion ...".

  religion in france.".

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  MacHislopp

  Hello everyone,

  I would like to share with you some thoughts
  About the attitude and the - actions - of the
  WTBS in the field of "…organized Christian
  religion".

  Many of us are well aware of the many
  legal procedures that the WTBS has and
  still does follows , with the noble goal to
  be granted, by various governments, the
  legal status of an:

  -"… organized Christian religion …"

  or even claiming to be (as in France):

  - "… we are the third-largest Christian
  religion in France."

  All these recent legal actions should
  not permit our …collective memory to fail
  us, and the WTBS written records will
  help us to have a better and more complete
  view of this matter.
  Let's go back to a special year, 1943 …that
  Year the WTBS published a well known book:
  "Thhe truth shall make you free ".
  Now let's see what they wrote about the subject

  - organized religion and - Christian religion.

  We open pages 314 and 315 of that book and we read:

  "Many sincere persons continue under bondage
  to "organized religion" because their clergy have
  mistaught them to think that "Christendom's "
  religion and Christianity are the same thing.
  In due time the exposure of this came out.
  In 1928 this statement was published and spread
  Throughout "Christendom": Satan is the god
  of this world, and therefore the nations of the
  world can not properly be designated as Christian nations. THERE IS NO SUCH THING
  AS A CHRISTIAN RELIGION, BECAUSE TRUE CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A RELIGION." (The book Government, page 139,
  §1; published 1928) This truth was made more
  prominent from 1936 forward , and the religionist everywhere manifested great indi-
  gnationat this exposure and at the public pronouncement that " religion is a snare and a
  racket". Both sixteen centuries of history till
  now and the present way of religion back up the
  foregoing statement as true."

  - end of quote -

  (Bold as in the original page).

  The simple question is : where is
  to be found, today , the TRUTH…
  that , according to Jesus Christ's
  words …shall make you free???

  a) Only inside an organized religion?
  b) Only inside an organized Christian religion?
  c) Only inside Christianity?

  d) Only inside Christendom?
  e) Only inside any kind of organized religion?
  f) Only inside God's Word the Bible?
  g) …Nowhere???

  Remember that the above statement :

  « THERE IS NO SUCH THING
  AS A CHRISTIAN RELIGION, BECAUSE TRUE
  CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A RELIGION."
  (The book Government, page 139,
  §1; published 1928) »
  comes from an organisation claiming, among other things,
  to be the only one approved by God, and
  to base all its teachings entirely on the Bible !

  It is obvious that the WTBS answer, keeps
  changing…according to many factors…not
  excluding power, prestige, money etc. etc.

  Greetings to you all, J.C.MacHislopp

  P.S. I hope Pureheart will read this.