in a controversial post in a separate thread, janh makes an extremely good observation that a certain former gb member will likely carry many, many wts "top secrets" to his grave, for whatever reasons he does not wish to divulge such.. then, on this db, former bethelites constantly exchange posts where their word choice is "cloaked" so that many of us who were not insiders are left guessing at meaning, people, etc.
obviously, even individual members of this fraternity have unique experiences and insights.
if such info is not disseminated, it is lost if that person dies naturally or in an accident.. would you folks please post more elaborately so that the rest of us can benefit from your knowledge and experience.. the statement that motivated this post made a silent reference to the author of the happiness book.
"PS: Please don't put down my friend Maximus. He is a great person, and he makes excellent posts, and really does not deserve being slammed down that way. Thanks. - Amazing"
OK, I see that you have no concern that he slanders and falsely accuses me of something that never even entered my mind.
Would you care to post a caution to him?
in a controversial post in a separate thread, janh makes an extremely good observation that a certain former gb member will likely carry many, many wts "top secrets" to his grave, for whatever reasons he does not wish to divulge such.. then, on this db, former bethelites constantly exchange posts where their word choice is "cloaked" so that many of us who were not insiders are left guessing at meaning, people, etc.
obviously, even individual members of this fraternity have unique experiences and insights.
if such info is not disseminated, it is lost if that person dies naturally or in an accident.. would you folks please post more elaborately so that the rest of us can benefit from your knowledge and experience.. the statement that motivated this post made a silent reference to the author of the happiness book.
"When my book comes out, you won't get my autographed copy."
Max, I probably won't sleep tonight. Your D.O. arrogance bleeds through again.
If you weren't so self-centered, you would never have "assumed" that my comments were directed at Barbara's posts or similar "meaty" topics. No, you assume that your threads/posts are the only ones that participants are interested in. Well, take a count. There's lots of other topics here.
Frankly, I could care less whether you respond to my posts or not. The only time you do respond is if I'm have posted something favorable to a topic of your interest. Thus, it is to your detriment if you don't.
As far as your book is concerned, if it takes you as long to get it on the market, as it does to get things done on this DB, ...
in a controversial post in a separate thread, janh makes an extremely good observation that a certain former gb member will likely carry many, many wts "top secrets" to his grave, for whatever reasons he does not wish to divulge such.. then, on this db, former bethelites constantly exchange posts where their word choice is "cloaked" so that many of us who were not insiders are left guessing at meaning, people, etc.
obviously, even individual members of this fraternity have unique experiences and insights.
if such info is not disseminated, it is lost if that person dies naturally or in an accident.. would you folks please post more elaborately so that the rest of us can benefit from your knowledge and experience.. the statement that motivated this post made a silent reference to the author of the happiness book.
FUCK YOU MAX!!!
Barbara Anderson never entered my mind when I put together this thread.
Why don't you reread my original post. What set me off was some ex-bethelite's post which referred to the author of "Happiness", without identifying for us peasants who that author was.
Your "D.O. Attitude" is transparent. You can't even stand to see your "group" criticized, much less yourself!
in a controversial post in a separate thread, janh makes an extremely good observation that a certain former gb member will likely carry many, many wts "top secrets" to his grave, for whatever reasons he does not wish to divulge such.. then, on this db, former bethelites constantly exchange posts where their word choice is "cloaked" so that many of us who were not insiders are left guessing at meaning, people, etc.
obviously, even individual members of this fraternity have unique experiences and insights.
if such info is not disseminated, it is lost if that person dies naturally or in an accident.. would you folks please post more elaborately so that the rest of us can benefit from your knowledge and experience.. the statement that motivated this post made a silent reference to the author of the happiness book.
Amazing:
AND, my point is that FACTS ARE FACTS and TRUTH IS TRUTH, and if those who are the Sole Source of such kick the bucket without sharing the unique info they possess, then such is lost for eternity.
"Honor" certainly doesn't stand in the way of "gossiping" about some facts/truth, then why should it stand in the way of COMPLETE FACTS/TRUTH.
My opinion is that as much info as possible should be disseminated, so long as it is a confirmed fact/truth.
I can think of a whole host of reasons, other than "honor", why one clique of folks wish to restrict facts/info fro the general populace, POWER and CONTROL not being the least of such.
Of course, your being an "insider" of the "power clique", I could not expect you to understand the perspective of those of us who must wait patiently for crumbs of "new light" from the xjw GB.
in a controversial post in a separate thread, janh makes an extremely good observation that a certain former gb member will likely carry many, many wts "top secrets" to his grave, for whatever reasons he does not wish to divulge such.. then, on this db, former bethelites constantly exchange posts where their word choice is "cloaked" so that many of us who were not insiders are left guessing at meaning, people, etc.
obviously, even individual members of this fraternity have unique experiences and insights.
if such info is not disseminated, it is lost if that person dies naturally or in an accident.. would you folks please post more elaborately so that the rest of us can benefit from your knowledge and experience.. the statement that motivated this post made a silent reference to the author of the happiness book.
Amazing:
"...being an honorable person, likely does not want to engage in gossip, or tell about negative things that have no real useful purpose other than to demean."
That must mean that the majority of the folks participating on this DB, including myself, are DISHONORABLE, since this DB THRIVES on GOSSIP intended to demean the WTS and JWs.
in a controversial post in a separate thread, janh makes an extremely good observation that a certain former gb member will likely carry many, many wts "top secrets" to his grave, for whatever reasons he does not wish to divulge such.. then, on this db, former bethelites constantly exchange posts where their word choice is "cloaked" so that many of us who were not insiders are left guessing at meaning, people, etc.
obviously, even individual members of this fraternity have unique experiences and insights.
if such info is not disseminated, it is lost if that person dies naturally or in an accident.. would you folks please post more elaborately so that the rest of us can benefit from your knowledge and experience.. the statement that motivated this post made a silent reference to the author of the happiness book.
In a controversial post in a separate thread, JanH makes an extremely good observation that a certain former GB member will likely carry many, many WTS "top secrets" to his grave, for whatever reasons he does not wish to divulge such.
Then, on this DB, former Bethelites constantly exchange posts where their word choice is "cloaked" so that many of us who were not insiders are left guessing at meaning, people, etc. Obviously, even individual members of this fraternity have unique experiences and insights. If such info is not disseminated, it is lost if that person dies naturally or in an accident.
Would you folks please post more elaborately so that the rest of us can benefit from your knowledge and experience.
The statement that motivated this post made a silent reference to the author of the Happiness book. The authorship of recent WTS publications would be a nice start.
Could former Bethelites please post a listing of such?
i am a baptised seventh day adventist and ive had studies for about 6mths with a very nice jw lady.
ive learnt about the wt teachings and attended the kh and the memorial.
n there are some similarities with the adventist and jw teachings such as baptism by imersion, the state of the dead,some adventists dont vote and some adventists beleive with the wt society in the arian doctrine that jesus is a created being and the holy spirit is a force but the vast majority beleive the trinity doctrine.
Barry's being a SDA and having studied with a JW for 6 months sparks my interest, since over a several decade period, I cannot recall ever meeting a JW who had previously been a SDA, real or perceived.
I don't even recall even "hearing" of a SDA becoming a JW. Since SDAs and JWs are both historical and doctrinal "cousins", there are good reasons FOR a "disgruntled" SDA to jump ship to the JWs, but there are also good reasons why a "questioning/inquiring" SDA would NOT want to become a JW.
Does anyone know a JW that was previously a SDA, and what motivated the switch?
ok. i read somewhere on this site something about those who don't know about jws fearing them so i thought,as someone who has always been 'worldly' i'd share what we really think of jws.. first of all we do not fear you, we fear your visits.
basically you're annoying!.
picture this; there you are happily going about your daily activities skipping joyeusly around your livingroom minding your own buisness and hark!, what's this?
Bgurltryal:
You are in a unique position to give this DB your opinion as to the non-jw general public's interest in the upcoming Dateline expose about how JWs deal with child abuse on the organizational level, as well as how the general public will react to such.
How many people will watch? How many will reach for their remote?
one final thing before i go on vacation:.
a while back a few of us discussed setting up a fund for ray franz, which i think is an excellent idea.
he has done so much for so many people and deserves financial help.
Ray, do you need some money? If you do, we will publicize it all over the internet and take up a collection for you. Those who can drop your name have promised the big bucks. Ray? Ray? Just say the word. Are you having money problems or not? Can't hear you Ray. Speak up!!!
brother k. had been reading carefully matt.
as to the manner of christ's coming other scriptures were found to be in perfect accord with the accounts of matt.
matt.
bttt
