Posts by andrekish

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Mind The Gap.

by andrekish in

this is meant as a joke to cheer some of us up if we are sad-sacks.

this video probably proves it but i haven't watched it so it might not.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rvgjof60gq.

this video probably proves it but i haven't watched it either so it might not either, who knows,.

Elder Telephoned

by The Searcher in

got a call from an elder in my previous congregation.. as tonight is meeting night, he enquired, "do you have anything on tonight"?.

i was sorely tempted to reply, "yes, a leotard made of spanx"!!!.

he would not have taken it well, so i just said 'no'!.

andrekish

This vid takes me back a bit and it's really funny.

Hope this isn't spamming as I'm unsure what is a fair amount of posting here but what's said here reminds me of when I was Mormon ward clerk and took all of the minutes at the bishopric meetings at a congregation in the UK.. Ethically I am still under my promise to not reveal personal details anywhere, but can justifiably state from direct involvement that some of what was said and agreed behind closed doors was very questionable indeed.

They tried to dig into members' personal lives where it was just not their business to do so. It was horrible to witness from behind the closed doors. Some of it genuinely bordered on the perverse. Since I physically wrote down what was being said I had time to comprehend what was being said. I bear no ill-will to Mormonism what-so-ever, it didn't cause me harm, luckily, unlike has happened to quite a few folks on here with Jehovah's Organization.

To any of you folks getting the butt end of this type of abuse can I recommend Monty Python's stuff about looking on the bright side 'coz Je Suis Brian et so are my wife and kids.
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Mind The Gap.

by andrekish in

this is meant as a joke to cheer some of us up if we are sad-sacks.

this video probably proves it but i haven't watched it so it might not.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rvgjof60gq.

this video probably proves it but i haven't watched it either so it might not either, who knows,.

andrekish

This is meant as a joke to cheer some of us up if we are sad-sacks.

Please don't take it to heart.

I wonder if the following sanity questioning remarks are scientifically and/or in any respect logically sound? Would any real life professors out there reading this be willing to offer any answers?

It is scientifically stated that once there was nothing. This video probably proves it but I haven't watched it so it might not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rvgJOF60gQ

Today we know that there is still a great deal of nothing but with lots of stuff in it. This video probably proves it but I haven't watched it either so it might not either, who knows,. Why should being aware if the facts be in any way relevant to anything?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBZH4dMac-Q

Space is empty, as is the huge void between atoms and electrons. There is far more nothing than there is something. This video probably proves that as well, but I'm I can't be bothered to watch this one either. so it might but I haven't watched it so it might not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a99cQQCjenU

Therefore.....

We are mostly not here.

But I couldn't find a video to prove it on Youtube.,

So I found a picture that proves it instead.

You can prove almost anything these days if you have a mind to and now I can't turn the yellow off

oh bugger.

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Uh oh ... caching issues

by Simon in

seems to be some caching issues with the latest update i just released - i'm looking into it.. strange - seems like certain pages are 'stuck'..

andrekish

When in doubt give it a clout. That's my sound technical advice honestly based on years of professional experience of computers. But may I cheekily suggest you stop breaking it in the first place?

And please may I borrer yer 'ammer?

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I knew a man who disfellowshipped his son.

by andrekish in

i knew a man who wouldn't talk to his own son.

i am neither the man nor the son.

the son is a very disillusioned friend.. i have to be careful with how this is said in order not to blame any innocent group by mistake.

andrekish

Thanks for reply.

My friend will never go near them again. He doesn't blame every member obviously, but In his eyes Jehovah is partly responsible as well, because he still believes in God. I can only imagine what would be said behind his back were he to attend any meeting. I've was there to hear the local Mormon congregation go wild with gossip when a lesbian lass in early attendance attempted suicide.

My friend will always carry his father's blame on his shoulders a bit, because the sins of the father reflect upon the sons. And my lesbian friend still carries the wrist scars. Based on the testimonies of horror on this site it appears not to be changing yet.

Those who are Witnesses could be right. I believe in a Creator so I cannot dismiss them. And I do hear the good side of their message, so thank them for that. But how can we trust a group whose leaders seem blind at times? Sometimes blood fills their footprints as they pass. But isn't that true of us all?

It is such a shame that can be said.

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Why are JW talks & publications never uplifting?

by thedepressedsoul in

i was sitting at the meeting the other night and for the first time it hit, jw talks or magazines are never uplifting!

i rarely, if ever hear a talk or read a magazines and have it give nothing but praise to jehovahs servants or just praise jehovah and jesus throughout it.

they never just a read through the bible or just a bible story explained or told.

andrekish

I keep saying this flippantly but it is true - 'What a Tutting of Christians there are in this world at times.' But they mean us well in their hearts, so that's nice actually.

Is there no-where in the organisation where group discussion is available?

Some of Jehovah's Witnesses, fellow humans, gave me a Bible study a few years ago then got the hump and that was that. Hmmm. Puzzling for a group with so much detailed research into the Bible and such a supposedly vital message in their hands.

I noticed at the meetings I attended, when they were actually talking to me still, that if the subject matter dictated there was boring, I was in trouble. Raised eyebrows from some of the Nans as I shifted in my chair and suppressed the odd giggle. My downfall is my sense of humour, can't help it,I'm afraid. Life is far too short to be a misery guts. But...

It seemed I was on hallowed ground. The hall had taken four days to put together, so there. When I asked what the hurry was they just glared at me. Some of the things they said made me think 'Hang on a minute, what are you on about? What is coming from your mouths is very sad. even though your message is good news if true. Are all you concerned with is Tutting in what you say and read?' Not all meetings were like that but enough to make me concerned.

If God made man to enjoy life then why are you who are Witnesses suppressing your sense of humour? 'Coz looking at some of the old moaners I've met among you, I think God's in for a right old Tutting at when and if we see Him. And looking at all us mad humans on this planet I do think God may have need of a sense of humour if we turn up on His doorstep and start singing at Him just to show how much we love Him. In 67 different languages simultaneously.

Perhaps this is why many meetings are boring - they are dictations rather than discussions or appeals to the bright side. I wonder how many times the words 'chapter' and 'verse' get uttered on a Sunday. Add all that time together, they get repeated over and over. All those 'chapters' and 'verse' are distracting from the story. By the time I'd find a page the story has moved on. They teach the already converted rather than the newcomer. Older folk read more from books than younger kids do. Maybe time for a complete meeting overhaul would help. Replace the books with iPads, maybe. They don't come across as to be looking on the bright side, do they?

Has any meeting ever asked the folks in a meeting to get their tablets out? I'd be curious to see what age group get what out compared to who is in charge. Do remember that among those attending any meeting the vast majority of medication and therefore potentially mind altering substances could well be in the pockets of your oldest and wisest elders.

Maybe the meeting ain't boring for them 'coz they're already medicated, thanks, and thus already away with the fairies? They are simply waiting for you to catch up.

There can be few things in life more boring than watching a drunk or a medicated tutter.

This is possibly the most accurate answer you may get.

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I knew a man who disfellowshipped his son.

by andrekish in

i knew a man who wouldn't talk to his own son.

i am neither the man nor the son.

the son is a very disillusioned friend.. i have to be careful with how this is said in order not to blame any innocent group by mistake.

andrekish

I knew a man who wouldn't talk to his own son. I am neither the man nor the son. The son is a very disillusioned friend.

I have to be careful with how this is said in order not to blame any innocent group by mistake.

The man was a religious man and went to his local religious place of worship and all associated get togethers. His son didn't want to go to this place of worship, it seemed like mind control to him. So he went to the pub, smoked pot, and got involved in very petty crime so his Dad disowned him.

Then the man who wouldn't talk to his son was arrested and jailed for sexual abuse of children within his religious group. He had been doing it for 40 years and it was his job to investigate such things.

How does any group deal with that? When it has taken it's eye off of the ball and innocents have been traumatised.

But far, far more importantly, how does the innocent son carry the weight of his father's crimes? How could he ever go back to the group?

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Looking back to what happened since sept 2012... i must say its brilliant !

by insidetheKH in

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who thought in the early months of 2012 that such a rebranding would take place in only a matter of 24 months?.

they managed to go from an antique looking and boring website (watchtower.org) with hardly any attractive content to go to a fresh looking new website with stuff for everyone, families, children, teenagers.. movies, and short videos about almost everything and new ones added every month.

cartoons, animation video's , interviews, picture activities all kind of projects, many audio files like dramatic bible readings, dramas and music, online research tools, new brochures for kids (off and online) etc.

andrekish

I'd objectively suggest a program relating to the questions raised here be aired on JWTV channel. To give everyone a fair chance to speak in public.

It's silly when any organization doesn't answer valid questions since then it can justifiably appear like a cover up and leave people infuriated.

Perhaps JWTV is the tip of a new iceberg? Maybe a radical rethink about how things are done is on the horizon so maybe dis-fellowshipping and shunning may end soon. I hope so in order that families not get destroyed without good cause. Guessing that my opinions about God are more valid than yours surely doesn't entitle me to wreck my family without their agreement..

The Mormons called me 'Heretic' as they threw me out, but I was using a OiuJa board at the time. I watched them do much worse and told them how wrong I thought they were. So they threw in 'Blasphemer' as well. Moi? I just asked them proper questions and got absolutely nowhere.

Things in the JW Org may be about to change and I hope they do, for their sakes, if nothing else. Us folk who are already savvy using modern media can already demonstrate how mad we can all be at times. JWs, being human, are simply as human as the rest and as mad at times. I do strongly believe they mean well.

As a final thought, do they have any science TV?

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A Tutting of Christians

by andrekish in

a tutting of christians:.

a tutting of muslims:.

a tutting of jews:.

andrekish

Hi folks - please, please don't be offended. This was posted under humour but all I hear is a Tutting of Posts.

Phizzy, Splash, Stillin, - that's the spirit. It's far nicer than some hateful stuff around the world and when we all take ourselves too seriously.

But I stand admonished. May I kindly ask how humour is spam, though? Have no intention of spamming anything so if this is I apologise.

My wife suggests the collect noun for a group of elders' wives is simply: DANGER.

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A Tutting of Christians

by andrekish in

a tutting of christians:.

a tutting of muslims:.

a tutting of jews:.

andrekish

A Tutting of Christians:

Tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt.

You're doomed.

A Tutting of Muslims:

Tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt.

You're doomed.

A Tutting of Jews:

Tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt tutt.

You're doomed.

You have to be fair in these things so that's me doomed again (and now possibly the cause of a Jihad or on some-one's hit list).

Is that tutting I can hear?