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  Was everyone surprised by how nice worldly people can be?

  by Inisc in

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  i, like most born ins grew up being taught that everyone who was not a jw was inherently wicked, that they were dishonest, unloving, selfish, bad parents who don't care about their children, and also sad empty people with no direction in life.. as i grew older i started to see that this wasn't always true with every one, that what i was taught wasn't equating with what i was seeing.. by high school i could see that my friends at school, (yes worldly friends eek!

  ) we're actually decent people with morals, they may have engaged in a little fornication here and there but not promiscuously, and they were good honest people, with goals and parents that cared for them.. but after high school i was phsycologicaly bullied into ceasing contact with my friends altogether, leaving me with little contact with outside world, and the cult mentality had more room to grow, not fully, but enough to unconsciously not fully trust 'worldly' people.. however, once i'd left the org and began to meet people again, i was amazed at actually how good, honest, loving, kind, and caring many people can be!

  who love their spouses and children and try their very best to be good parents and partners.

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  Everything Disillusioned Lost-Lamb posted.

  Also: I was SHOCKED, just completely SHOCKED, at how worldly people were so normal, and not the STD-infected, foul-mouthed- duplicitous monsters they were made out to be.
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  My cong were all copycats

  by usualusername in

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  i am not an expert in control groups but my cong had this odd habit of copying each other in weird ways:.

  jobs.

  window cleaners.

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  Morbidzbaby, my own mother was one of those loons into the pyramid schemes. First it was Tupperware, then Herbalife, then some other company. She never did learn.

  In my experience, the things that were copycat-ted the most were hair styles and briefcases :p For the younguns I believe there was a fad of colorful pens and notebooks.
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  Do the Jehovah Witnesses break up families?

  by trailerfitter in

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  the answer is yes in my case.

  for some of you wonderful people on here will remember i asked a few questions and was concerned about my wife becoming a jehovahs witness,...well, she is baptised now and fully fleged (committed).. i have been called possessed by satan , mentally ill, a schitzophrenic and was beaten emotionally and mentally.

  eventually i had to leave our house after 2 years of this situation getting worse.

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  Before my parents decided to marry and make it legal, many members of the congregation would BLATANTLY flirt with my pretty young mother, and some sisters even went so far as to SUGGEST ideal candidates.

  Once my dad (non JW) accompanied us for a meeting, and one brother was heavily petting my mother (touching her hair, arm, complimenting) in front of my dad. Someone misinformed the poor moron about my mom being single and looking for a good, spiritual brother to marry.

  Needless to say.... my dad had to be dragged out of the hall after threatening to break the guy's face. After that awesome incident, nobody hit on mom, much to her chagrin :D .
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  How did/does your congregation view going out to eat AFTER the Memorial?

  by OneDayillBeFree in

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  for us it used to be a big no-no, but i think it has slowly grown more acceptable since many of our elders would be starving during the whole reject jesus party.... i always thought it was a bit funny when i saw brothers and sisters almost celebrating with a big feast and drinks on the night that the good ol' messiah sacrificed himself for all humankind!

  it seems now more recently that since it is the only thing witnessess can celebrate, they go all out!

  maybe i'll join in the festivities too.. so what about you guys?

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  Before I left the org, I remember many families went out to eat afterwards, and nobody really said anything about it. Some families would even organize small gatherings at their own homes, inviting 'prominent' brothers and sisters. Very exclusive affair I guess. It was my favorite part, well that and the whole buying new outfits and seeing old friends.

  But when I spoke to my mom about it last year, she mentioned that the elders had been trying to stop them from doing it, something about how it wasn't appropiate to do. I think most still did it, my kh was never very good at listening :p.
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  what was the reason for canceling the book study in private homes

  by reds in

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  the_raisin

  I agree that the book study was more 'social' than regular meetings. In fact, my kh supported the idea of a small 'party' at individual book studies every three weeks or so. The brothers and sisters would bring homemade goodies, and for the most part us teens loved to use this as an opportunity to gossip and just relax.

  When they first announced the cesation, I honestly believed it was my kh's fault, because the rumor was that the book study wasn't taken seriously and there was too much 'socializing' going on, and I truly believed they KNEW we were gossiping :p .
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  Living With Regret - what do YOU regret about being in the org?

  by babygirl30 in

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  1. getting baptized at 14 and not knowing what the heck i was 'signing' up for.

  2. dating worthless, lazy, no work ethic, selfish 'brothers' who were supposedly approved all because they were baptized - but in the end - were a waste of my time and younger years in dating.. 3. subjecting my bf (back in the day) who was a non-jw to the whole jw experience!

  i demanded that he study, i demanded that he change his religion in order to be with me, i made him sit with my parents and listened to them berate him (and myself) while they fed him all their haughty beliefs and requirements in order to date their jw daughter.

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  I regret not going to West Point...

  I applied, was accepted, was ENCOURAGED by the school itself...

  But when the letter came and my mom saw it, she went nuts. She sat me down and gave the whole 'you'll be a murderer, Jehovah won't forgive you, I love you and won't let you do this' speech.

  And now here I am. And out of everything (the hurtful gossip, the bullying, the self-hatred, the abuse by my mother), I truly regret this the most, because it would have given me such a HUGE opportunity that I no longer have.
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  it just blows me away!

  by stillin in

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  a friendly group of young people came in the drive yesterday.

  they all got out with smiles and said that they were looking to put canned food into the "food bank," i assumed for people who need to eat.

  i wasn't sure what my wife could part with from the pantry but surely we could gather something for somebody who has much less!

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  Here's a little gem of a story :

  Back when I was still a teenager and living with my parents, we hit a rough patch economically speaking. My parents were not working, I couldn't work, we had no income coming in, and no food. So my parents decided to be 'screw it, we need HELP' and went to food banks that were held in Catholic churches or other religious affiliations. Thank 'GOD' for their decision, because that food went a long way and kept us fed. They didn't care if were were JWs or what race we were, they saw the need and they gave.

  Well, months later a couple of other JW families from our congregation also went through a rough patch. I remember one of those families had no food whatsoever for their kids or themselves, and it was a very sad situation. We could not give much since we were struggling as well, and my mom finally told them to go and ask for help, go to food banks etc. Their response? A loud NO. They would not accept help because you know, them being from other religions and all that. The other family I believe did end up going after realizing the brothers and sisters who 'loved' them didn't want to give them squat.

  To this day I wonder what was going on in that family's head (the ones who allowed their kids to go to bed hungry instead of going to the food banks). It's sad, but apparently there are JW who are fanatic enough to do such a thing. And the worst part is, the congregation knew of the needs, but most wouldn't help out, because they didn't like them.
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  Another possible reason for smaller mags. . .

  by breakfast of champions in

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  i was thinking this as i was reading through a foreign language wt yesterday afternoon.

  the wt needs so many translators to translate their crap into 200 or whatever languages.

  can you imagine the mental gymnastics these people need to do in order to translate stuff like the "generation" teaching into another language?

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  When did this forum go apostate?

  by B_Deserter in

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  i was curious because i had heard simon was a jw when he started this forum.

  i was looking through the old posts, but couldn't really pinpoint one that was a "turning point" so-to-speak.

  simon must have left the j-dubs at some point.

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  the_raisin

  Whoa, I actually just found out this forum was once por-JW. Mind boggling!
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  What percentage of young ones are leaving the JW's???

  by karter in

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  in my area atleast 50% if not more..

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  the_raisin

  Well, thankfully my siblings are not JWs anymore. They are thinking for themselves again!!! And I do know a lot of younguns who left the Org (funny thing is, before I left I made friends with younger kids. Those same kids, who at one point would tell me of the dreams to go to Bethel and become Elders and what not... well, they are rockers with actual bands who make good music/ going to college and no longer attending meetings/ seem pretty well-adjusted and nice kids who deny ignorance... and a couple potheads, but that wasn't my doing!). SO form my experience, quite a chunk have opened their eyes. Which happys me.