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  A CALL FOR ACTION IN FRANCE - PLEASE HELP

  by bj in

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  as i said in a previous message, the president of mils, alain vivien in his new parlament report on sects, is plaining to classify jw a religion (the exact term "association confessionnel").

  if this would be left done it would be another victory for jw and other european countries might follow the example.

  somebody (malka) called this a "fake".

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  Malka

  Yes, Jacques Luc writes very good articles and works quite seriously.

  And we can happily see, that the French *still* will consider the WT as a sect.

  The MILS is BTW interested in knowing who started this rumour.

  Regards

  Cyril
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  A CALL FOR ACTION IN FRANCE - PLEASE HELP

  by bj in

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  as i said in a previous message, the president of mils, alain vivien in his new parlament report on sects, is plaining to classify jw a religion (the exact term "association confessionnel").

  if this would be left done it would be another victory for jw and other european countries might follow the example.

  somebody (malka) called this a "fake".

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  Well... This is a hoax after all anyway, as I said :-)

  Richard Maynacque wrote to the ministery and asked them. The answer (reproduced at the bottom this mail) says that it is actually a fake.

  In short, it says that 1) the MILS *NEVER* have proposed to remove the WT from the list of sects, they do point out that they can't recommand a movement as being a sect but that the WT absolutely finds that the WT do attack the human rights.

  They do ask too, where this rumor is coming from, as it is NOT exact.

  That does seattle it, doesn't it?

  Cyril

  === COPY OF THE LETTER FROM THE MILS ====

  Mission Interministérielle de Lutte contre les Sectes
  Le Secrétaire Général

  "Par courrier du .... Reçu le ...., vous me faites part du fait que la M.I.L.S aurait émis une recommandation pour que le mouvement des T. De Jéhovah ne soit plus considéré comme une secte.
  "Je souhaite que vous me transmettiez les références du site faisant état de cette affirmation qui ne correspond absolument pas à la réalité.
  " ... La M.I.L.S n'indique pas si un mouvement est ou n'est pas une secte mais précise sans ambiguïté que les T. De Jéhovah constituent un mouvement dont certains des comportements sont incontestablement attentatoires aux libertés et aux droits de
  l'Homme."
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  URGENT AND IMPORTANT. TO BE READ BY ALL

  by bj in

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  in france, a new parlament report on sects was just writen (but not yet published)by alain vivien(president of mils)and his team.

  to the surprise of all ex-jw victims, jehovah's witnesses are now recognisied as "association confessionnel", in other words religion.

  if this would be published, it would be another victory for the wbts worldwide and open new opportunities for them which they well know how to take profit.

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  Malka

  Don't worry... It is a fake... The note was from July 2000

  The article, Le Monde refers to is an old one, in fact:

  http://www.lemonde.fr/article/0,5987,3226--238699-,00.html

  and Alain Viven has in fact, long time ago said it was a fake:

  http://www.lexpress.fr/Express/Info/Societe/Dossier/sectes/Dossier.asp

  So The WT is still considered as a sect in France and there is no evidence or sounds whatsoever that it is going to change for the time being.

  Regards,

  Cyril
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  Cyril Lykkebo Malka

  by Kent in

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  hi folks .

  a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

  he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

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  Malka

  Hi Simon,

  Let me put it clearly myself:

  I know for a fact that posts by Malka and Scorpyo have been made from the same computer. If you want to dispute that you can but I never bluff .

  You are mistaking then ;-). But you are not correct... If you are as good as you say, then you *know* it is not correct :-)

  I am not sure this is the kind of post for this group, and you are welcome to follow this discussion up in private.

  I could have been wrong about how you found the thread but this is not really important.

  Well, it is, as it is the start of your conspiracy theory... You are wrong about it, and you know it as well.

  Now come with facts, eventually in private if you prefer or stop that.

  Regards

  Cyril
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  Cyril Lykkebo Malka

  by Kent in

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  hi folks .

  a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

  he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

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  Hi Simon.

  I am amazed & flabberghasted that in all the pages on all the web sites that Scorpyo happened to find this thread so quickly! However, I know from my own regular reviews of web traffic stats reports that it's clear when someone has put a new link to your site as it shows up as a new referer.

  Your theory falls down already here:

  I can give you my stats, this link isn't on it. I was made aware of this thread by others. You might read it on my first appearance. On this date, the link to my page still does not appear on my stats.

  But if this is how he found it, how could Scorpyo have access to Malka's web stats?

  He doesn't.

  Maybe that would also explain why their posts have been from the same computer? (although it could still be two separate people)

  May I say: You're bluffing. As I even don't write with the same computer... I have written on this thread from at least three differents: A job somewhere, at my home, and at my new computer that I just changed...

  How could Scorpyo and I then write from the same machine?

  Now, I personally don't know what any of this is about as I can't speak French, Danish, Swedish or anything other than "good ole English" and non of the sites make any sense to me whatsoever but I can tell when something is not as it appears.

  Well yes: You jump to conclusions without having anything concrete and on an assumption that I (or Scorpyo) have been made aware of this thread by a stat... As told, I was made aware by people, not by stats.

  Hope this make some sense to someone!

  Not much, no, but I am sure those are details for some of the people here... It doesn't need to be true or to be solid to be believed in... :-)

  Regards,

  Cyril
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  Cyril Lykkebo Malka

  by Kent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks .

  a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

  he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

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  Malka

  Hi Chasson

  Great tatoo ;-) !

  Thanks... made in Denmark. It was actually send on TV while it was made. It was by... chance... they were making a report on piercing/tatooing, and I happened to be there.

  But my wife being really jalous, I would take care, if I were you, as you keeping pictures of me on your site...

  Anyway, whether or not I am tatooed, I still am not Scorpyo... Sorry about that :-)

  Cyril
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  Cyril Lykkebo Malka

  by Kent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks .

  a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

  he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

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  Malka

  Hi Chasson...

  You don't have much to do, do you? :-)

  I am happy to have you in my fan club though :-)

  I can send you an signed exemplar of the picture if you wish... yes?

  Cyril
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  Cyril Lykkebo Malka

  by Kent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks .

  a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

  he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

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  Malka

  Over and out :-)

  Now, the new version, with documents online about Soren Bo Henriksen and his Dialogos Counselling has just been uploaded. (01:38 AM GMT +1)

  Everyone is free to see it and the necessary documents scanned and all. It can be found at: http://www.multimania.com/counselling

  It is in Danish :-)

  Of course, I will still give more informations or documentation to anyone who ask in email, if more is necessary.

  Say hello to your friends from Scientology from me, Soren :-)

  Thanks for your help Scorpyo.

  Over and out.

  Cu all out there.

  Cyril
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  Cyril Lykkebo Malka

  by Kent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks .

  a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

  he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

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  Malka

  Hi,

  Since you asked, Soeren. I have putted back my site about you and the things you have done online again. It can be found at
  http://www.multimania.com/counselling

  People will be able to see by themselves.

  I will as well put the new documentations and the result of all the talk here online too. I will also put every documentation avalaible online as well. Since you are interested that everyone knows. It will be done: By your wish... Remember that!

  I notice, that you still react in a perfect WT manner: You have the truth! Now, not about God, but about the WT...

  I noticed that you didn't answer the questions I asked, but speak about something else. You refer to a news. I have actually complained about your site to Get2net to make it removed. It was removed shortly after. If it isn't on purpose, it is a funny coincidence, and of course I will change this...

  Anyway... You will be able to read everything about it on the updates of the page on multimania... As well as everyone else interested.

  BTW: Why didn't you (in best JW's style) not answer: Did you, or did you not helped the criminal cult of Scientology against some formers members by writing a letter against me, that Scientology used in court for try to stop the case. The case which is the first of its kind in Denmark and might mean a lot for a lot of ex-cults members.

  Did you or did you not help The Scientology just to get me down?

  You never frankly answered this question, but speak of something else.

  This documentation will be put online too.

  Have fun!

  Cyril

  PS: No more answer will be given else than on the page of Multimania. Any documentations about this talk will be given in private to anyone who wish it from [email protected]

  Any other talk about Soren Bo Henriksen, who isn't that interested will only be made in private as I find this kind of public trash unpleasant.
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  Cyril Lykkebo Malka

  by Kent in

  1. jw
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  hi folks .

  a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

  he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

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  Malka

  Hi everyone,

  Since it seems I am the subject of the thread, and since it has actually taken some bandwith, I will make a struggle to my principles and answer to the accusations above.

  I do not expect understanding or dialog, and I will not say more than the thing in that mail, as I find this kind childish and low. But since I am subject to discussion, I believe it is all right I show up.

  I have been made aware of this discussion first by a mail and then by my wife, it seems a lot of things happend there... Now I believe we have to make things clear:

  First: I am not identical to Scorpyo. It is correct, I know him though. For everyone interesting in zodiac (as Chasson) I am born on the 6th. of October, which make me a Libra (Balance, for the french speakings!) not a Scorpio!

  It is correct, I live around the french city of Tours, in the center of France, but I don't live in Tours, as Chasson says.

  Kent Steinhaug:

  It is correct, I have had a good contact with Kent Steinhaug at a time, and then we stopped writing together. He never answered some of my mails even though I tried to ask him what the problem was. So whatever problem is there, I don't know about it. I got "expelled" without knowing why. Whatever the problem is, I am not aware of it and I have never commented it in public. Only my wife and good friends know my thought about this. Whatever else is there is between Kent and me (or in fact between Kent and Kent as I don't know anything else!) I don't know the details.

  I will never call the man a "joker" or a "rocket scientist" in public, as I believe everything of this kind only helps WatchTower and others.

  I am very happy that Kent took a copy of my site to his harddisk, as it will be a fine help if my server goes down, then I'll always have a copy somewhere, I can take down, I am sure, he wouldn't refuse me that.

  About the news: I find my own news, I actually pay for some of them and I don't need you or "Watchtower Observer" to get the news. It is 100% correct that malka.dk is used by some newspapers (kristeligt Dagblad, Politiken, Jyllands Posten and others) as a primary information center. Not only about JWs, but also about other cult, as malka.dk sees it as an important role to be informative and helping about cults.

  If you wish, you can ask me to fax you the articles of (among others!) Kristeligt Dagblad where malka.dk is named as primary source of the news.

  We have some problems with this paper ourselves as I have the authorisation of the journalist to bring the article speaking of us on our webpage, but the editor refuses it. We have removed SOME of the articles from our page, but I believe they are going to be put on as soon as the syndicat of the journalists in Denmark has answered whereever I may or not put the articles on.

  None has copyright on the news itself. Though it is illegal just to put the article on ones webpage (as you in fact do!). We are not doing this: We find the news, then find more backgroundabout the news and then put it (eventually!) on malka.dk. We are largely used by a lot of medias in Denmark. I am sorry it eventually pick on your proudness. We will not stop our job or what we are doing, even though you don't like it!

  Soeren Bo Henriksen:

  It is correct, I know the guy, as he came to my home, ate and almost lived with me and my ex-wife. I appreciated him a lot at the beginning until he kind of "flew away" and begin to believe he was me and my wife was his. Whatever happened in his head, I don't know, and I don't wanna know, I didn't think that it was a good idea my name was associated to his any longer, and I am, today, very happy that I took this decision.

  It is correct that he helped Scientology so he could get to me. He, and the group of ex-JW's in Denmark answered letter to the sect of Scientology and helped them.

  The case is: 3 women try to get their money back from the sect. When they got out of Scientology, they have actually signed a paper saying that they won't ask for more. Now they want their money bak (a bit more than $ 100.000.) Scientology won't let them get them, as they say, they signed a paper saying they wouldn't sue Scientology.

  The women claimed, they were abused and weren't themselves when they signed.

  The court wanted an "objective psychologist" to find out of that. I was asked for the job, but answered no, as I am NOT objective. I have NEVER and will NEVER be objective, as I am on the side of the victims in any case. I am NOT objective and never will in cult questions!

  Then a bit later, I was asked to be a counseller for the three womens advocate. I gotta go through their courses, material etc. and we are going to try to prove that Scientology courses stinks and aren't real.

  I have to be paid by the Danish state (appointed by the court) so I had to be accepted. I was asked for my references, which I gave. In between, I have writen that I was a counsellor for the Ex-Jws group in Denmark, which is correct, (you can read about this in a early book of the ex-Jw's magazines in Denmark!).

  Now, this was sent to Scientology, as they are the other part in the case. They asked the Ex-JW's group in Denmark if this was correct. The Ex-JW's group answer was: no. It isn't. Which is actually a lie and can be easily proved by their own litterature (where did we read about that, eh?). Then they gave Scientology the adress of Søren Bo Henriksen, who actually critisized me in public every time he could.

  Søren Bo Henriksen, was asked by Scientology if I was a counsellor for the group while he was president of it. To this question, he answered "no", which is correct, as he only was vice president while I was a counselor.

  I have the letters, as they were used in court, and I will scan and send them to everyone who is interested.

  It is also correct that Søren Bo Henriksen had made a kind of "cyber" helping page, which was called "Dialogos Counselling". As his habit, even the name wasn't his idea: Dialogos came from "DialogCenter", and SBH took the name from there. He called it Dialogos Counselling, so he registered the letters DC (as in Dialog Center) and tried to sue the Dialog Center hereafter... How great! In his homepage, there was nothing else than article critisising other anti-cults movement: Kristen Frihed, Dialog Center, me and later on the danish Ex-Jw's group! Anything but him was good enough!

  He had in years written about me in Danish medias (years!) without I ever answered. He had send insulting mails to me every time he read an article written by me (I got the mails, just ask if you wish!) I have n-e-v-e-r answered. Especially not in public. Still because I have this idiotic belief that anti-cults SHOULD NOT fight each other.

  Then SBH had articles from the danish newspaper "Kristeligt Dagblad" on his page. The newspaper asked him to remove them. He did. Some time later he putted an article from KD on his website. This one about NLP. Now, this article was from the newspaper Kristeligt Dagblad, but the stuff in it came from our website and from our interviews. It is correct, I said to the journalist, her article was on SBH site. She sued him through the danish syndicate of journalists (DJF) for an amount of about 17.000 DKr.

  SBH knew that DJF didn't sued people without money, so he put his site (and Dialogos Counselling - help to people in distress because of cults!) down, so he hadn't to pay the bill. Dialogos Counselling exists no more.

  I can prove everything of this to anyone who would like it (in private!)

  Soren Bo Henriksen, you, who are quick to speak bad about me in the press. May we have some straight answer here (and remember, I will prove everything by mails, papers I have from you!)

  1. Did you or did you not help the sect Scientology against me? Even though you KNEW it was to be used in a case against Scientology? The letter was written by Karna Jensen on Scientolgys own letter paper and it was said, it was to be used in a court of law. did you, or did you not help them against me?

  2. Did you or did you not got a letter from Anne Korsholm, in a standard of DJF saying you had to pay a bill for the illegal use of her paper about NLP where my wife, Britt, and me were the source?

  3. Is it correct or not, that you then put your "Dialogos Counselling" down because you then didn't have to pay this bill?

  4. Is it correct or not, that you tried to frame me, that you tried to make me look like if I have pulled myself as a "psychologist" (as I have never tried to!) to different people, press or people, as for example my former patient: Judy Prescott? (she authorized me to use her name and mails to you if needed! those would be send to anyone who want to know the truth!)

  Now, since you participate to this debate about taking me down, and just make an "EOD" when things get hot, I would suggest you answer those questions or admit what you did (at least! A bit of honnesty!).

  Chasson:

  I didn't trust you while you were a JW, as you said a lot of things which were way out. I still don't trust you, you are too unstable.

  I have, in fact asked on usenet, about getting some more infomations about the e-meter (especially in english) as I needed it. I don't believe it is important to you to know why. If you believe than being "specialist" means "never need to ask questions that might seems obvious for you", then I believe you are wrong.

  I still ask questions about what I don't know, and I do admit my mistakes if I make some (as I surely do, who doesn't?) I don't think this is "bad" or meaning I am "not a specialist" because I ask questions or because I would like to have my sources checked or else. This is, in fact!, the way to become a specialist: admit what you don't know and learn. Only idiots or the WT wouldn't accept this fact!

  It is not correct that I try to sue everyone. The question of the barking dog was because of one of our neighbors. This is correct.

  But it is also correct, that Malka isn't scared of lawcourt if needed. Lot of people have tried to take us down: Herbalife, Scientology and others. This has never happened, and this will never happen! www.malka.dk will always be!

  About money, Chasson, since it seems so important to you. Correct: As a specialist, I take a lot of money for courses or for help in law. Those people want the knowledge I do have, they have to pay. What is it to you? The 1500 you speak about, is for courses. This means: You might be 100 people to pay for this!

  Why?

  Because for my therapy, I have always been cheap. Because I don't believe that the people who can affoard a psycho analyst are the one who need a psycho analyst!

  I know my job. I am great at my job (even though it might be a bad taste to say so!) and I like my job! I love it!

  Now, Soren Bo Henriksen, who is eager to take me down knows this: I have taken as few than 5 Dkr. an hour for "patients" (about 4 French Francs, under $1!) an hour! Why? Because the Ex-JW didn't have money? Why? Because Ex-JWs are almost as Ex-Scientologst or others: They have no money! They have learn to clean! This is all! They have no education! They have no income! Let's say it: They can't afford it!

  Well, then I asked my patient for a 5'er an hour. Why? Because people HAVE to pay for treatment, to learn this is THEIR responsability to get better. The rest? Well... I had to work on the outside as an nurse-aid of a kind so I could pay the bill and support my family!

  I have spoke to people, couples or not, to far out in the night and helped them for free. Nothing. Not a G-d damned thing. I have helped the Ex-Jw's syndicate in any way I could, for nothing!

  I have as well helped the syndicate to try to get founds and money. All that I have done at my expenses, with the help of people I knew and I have "used" their knowledge. In fact, this is the deal, everyone: Give!

  I give everything I know, or get, or people tell me. I believe that giving knowledge is the key. I NEVER keep anything for myself, but always give the information on. This is why malka.dk has become a source for a lot of people.

  So yes: People who wat me to keep courses, hold a tale or need my knowledge: They have to pay cash, and it is expensive. I have worked hard for it, and it costs a lot. People who need help, have (and will!) always get for free. Almost. As told, there is a therapeutic goal in the fact that people "pay" for treatment.

  At last, Chasson, yes, me and my wife are members of astrological syndicate. On that I would say: whatever our faith is, is NOT your problem: We believe in God and in Jesus, we are catholics but we are not following the Pope whenever he says! I love my wife, as you love yours, and I am as human as you. I do have weekness, as you, as Kent, as everyone... what then? Are you happy to find one?

  Anyway: It is correct that in a work about astrology, I have got my horoscop laid, we got to pay less if we became members of astrology syndicate... Whatever: I am half jew! Whenever I can spare a cent! I do! We paid less.

  If I may: The personal analysis was quite accurate! I was real impressed and even though I didnt believe in "this", I got shaked!

  Anything wrong? Even though I did believe in Astrologoy? How far would you go to get on me?

  Now, as a finish:

  - Kent: I don't understand what your problem is with us. Whatever it is, it is YOUR problem, not ours. Don't try to get us down... A friendly advice to you.

  - Søren Bo Henriksen: Noone serious listen to you in Denmark, and you know it! Get growing. Become a man. Try to get right, you have still the chance. You might become to somebody. May I give you the tip? The tip is: Think of others, not of yourself!

  - Chasson: You aren't serioous enough! You talk loud but never get on from the Internet. Whatever you have against me.... I don't know... Your problem, your work... The fact is: You don't do nothing: All that you do is translate articles from Kent to almost allright french. (It surprises me you can judge my french, with the grammaticals and vocabulary mistakes you do yourself!)

  It is okay though. I never got you down on the french newsgroups, when you let as you came with a news... I let you have it. Even thougt it is 100% illegal: You translated it from Kent, which got it from a mewspaper somewhere without authorization... did you, Kent?

  I have to make clear: The papers about CLH: I got it in may mailbox (not my cyber one!) a long time ago, together with a lot of other documents. Those are original documents, and they are not from Kent or others... I have alway worked alone, and I always will. I have never used anyones work, and I never will.

  As I said to the person, who send me mail about that I was subject to discussion here, and as I said to my wife before:

  - People think, what they want to think... Intelligent people will (sooner or later!) find out what is wrong by themselves. No need for me to defend myseld. Idiots will think whatever they want to. It doesn't matter what I say or not... Why bother?

  This is my firs and last answer to this group. I can ( at the opposite of others!) document everything I say, all you need to do is ask.

  Because idiots are idiots and can't be taken out of it, I will ask my wife and Scorpyo (who isn't me!) to drop it! Please don't answer any accusations against me, you can't change idiots mind anyway... Forget it.

  This is my first and my last mail on this group. Anyne who would like to know more is welcome to write to: [email protected]

  CU

  Cyril