ha ha whats good for goose good for gander..
I don't think they have anyone in the back pocket. I think it is that religion is exempt from scrutiny under most circumstances. The fact that they are getting in trouble at all says something.
Who was that talk show host that showed how easy it is to set up a religion in the US.
They went and talked to a lawyer and just by having the talk show they already covered many of the legal requirements.
so are individual witnesses being told to prepare bread and have wine on hand for the zoom memorial?
are they saying it’s “vital” or is it just a “suggestion?” .
Thanks FFGhost. I guess the easy choice is the Kosher stuff since there's no thinking involved.
I just remember that bottle of Manischewitz was always in the fridge at my house the day after the memorial. Well it probably didn't actually make it to the next day.
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so are individual witnesses being told to prepare bread and have wine on hand for the zoom memorial?
are they saying it’s “vital” or is it just a “suggestion?” .
I assume the wine still needs to be Kosher i.e. made under the supervision of someone that doesn't believe in Jesus?
And how times have changed since the 80s!
does anybody know if the borg has ever done any articles on what day of the week they think jesus died?
i know most denominations think it was friday and i have also heard somewhat sensible arguments that it could be wednesday.
not that it matters weather one in a believer or not even.
They probably never did because it is already a controversy. They seem to only chime in when they think they are the ones with the inside scoop. Like the explanation that Jesus didn't die on a cross because it was a pagan symbol, even though the people putting him to death likely didn't care about such things.
after you read the words of jesus in mark 2: 17, you will see that the contrast between the teachings of jesus and the governing body.. .
you clearly read what's written in the bible, but the society is always twisting and bending scriptures to their benefit.
here is stephen lett talking about ''spiritually weak'' members and twisting jesus's words teaching on sinners:.
I find myself wondering if they don't realize that their end is in sight and all this craziness is an effort to wake up as many people as possible without causing mass suicides.
It seems like a fairly humane way to do things. Make it so crazy people start waking up and any young person would want to get out as fast as possible. Take ownership of all the property so there won't be any fighting over it at the local level. Consolidate and sell off properties to raise cash for the lawsuits and try to keep enough money around to keep things running until all the hardcore, never leaving JWs die off.
Or maybe they know it is BS and are just trying to live the rest of their lives in relative comfort while watching the whole thing fall apart.
my husband is going in on tuesday to have surgery to repair a badly torn rotator cuff on his right shoulder.
he is right handed.. he's 51 and is great about exercising and staying in shape.
however, while doing push ups, his shoulder just snapped.
The Oxy they gave me did nothing for the pain so I saved them up and used them for fun on the weekends. I'd take 3 in the afternoon and space out for the rest of the day.
I definitely don't think they should be giving Oxy to anyone. I was obsessing over them for months after I stopped taking them. I didn't ask for a refill for fear of getting addicted and my doctor told me most people have a lot more pain than I did. I suspect they were just looking for another refill
One warning, don't take a sleeping pill after stopping Oxy. I didn't sleep while taking it but didn't care. I didn't sleep after stopping and it was terrible. Taking a sleeping pill made it much much worse.
obviously at some point you stopped believing the witnesses had the truth or else you wouldn’t be here.
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but for the most part, were you a true believer or were you typically a rebel or a doubter?
When I was in I would have said 100% yes I believe it. If anyone tried to convince me otherwise I would have turned them in or covered my ears and run away like a good JW.
Looking back I accepted it as the truth without any verification whatsoever.
In my defense, although I was raised as a JW, I was really only a believer for 5-10 years.
I spent most of my life not paying attention at meetings or family study. I got baptized at 18 or 19 having no clue what I was agreeing to. I got DFed at 27 or so. A few years later I finally did my verification and learned TTAT.
we had a letter read in our cong.
last week that said the public wt and awake would be delayed during the beginning of 2021. meaning we would just use the 2020 version into 2021 and there would be no new ones at the beginning of 2021 until an undetermined time sometime during the 1st half of 2021. at least that is the gist that i remember.
it was in what atlantis provided but there was no further detail....very brief.. any more intel or speculation on this?
I would have assumed it had to do with folks hording toilet paper and they didn't want to give up their stash?
what is the most insensitive thing an overseer or elder has ever said and done to you?
i have had many insensitive things said to me by some elders, but for some reason one self-righteous elder was always on my case.
he didn't like the fact that i missed meetings, didn't like that i never went out in field service, that i didn't answer at the weekly meetings and he didn't like that i carried my books and magazines in my hands and not a service/book bag.
Reading a lot of these makes me think I was probably a judgmental prick when I was a JW. So I guess I can't complain too loudly...
a point to consider is that the bible states that if a prophet says things that god as not given them to say, they are to shun that individual or persons.. deuteronomy 18:22 ...... if a prophet speaks in the name of the lord, and the thing does not come about and does not come true, the lord has not spoken that word.
the prophet has spoken it presumptuously.
do not be afraid of him.. another scripture to note or consider would be 1 john 4:1 ......... dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from god, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.. so to observe if someone is saying things wrongly or what they have not been instructed to say in the preaching work, one has to play close attention to the instructions handed out by jesus christ himself.. one of the admonishments handed out to his followers is that they should not set a time upon god's own sacred time and that not even he knows of the time.. yet the wts and its top leading men have set numerous times on their own accord, taught and preached them, which were acts of disobedient apostasy.
They may claim that they are not prophets but if it walks like a duck....
They do have a pretty good gig. We're not prophets, just god's mouthpiece. You are required to treat us as if we're infallible. However we can and will be wrong* but we will never admit to a specific mistake If we ever allude to a mistake in the past it will be you that takes the blame.
*In reality the leaders have never been right about anything
