Apostates are trying to get some of the attention the Governing Body gets and that ain't right.
scotoma
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DC: apostates are the Anti-Christ
by under_believer inthe more you know, i guess.. also, they used a metaphor likening them to known sex offenders.
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good times over here in day 2. .
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Is "Old Light" really called independent thinking?
by I_love_Jeff inwhen "old light" becomes "new light" sometime down the line the "new light" will eventually become old.
i do realize the superiors use passages (aka word magic) to explain such a big change.
what would be the difference between holy spirit revelation vs. man's opinion in this particular situation?
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scotoma
It is a very revealing question.
If you accept the idea that Holy Spirit is guiding the organization you have to believe that the men in charge can't get their receivers to tune in properly.
Or you have to believe that holy spirit is operating erratically at a very low wattage.
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The godless commit less crime, have longer marriages and are more highly educated than almost any other group in America
by DJS inteam,.
the following is a letter to the editor from this morning's local newspaper.
i haven't vetted any of this, and i don't know the writer of it.
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scotoma
Only 6% of scientists are republican.
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Richard Dawkins gave me an RT!
by cedars invery unexpected, but appreciated nonetheless.... .
a link to this article has now gone out to 750,000 followers!
http://wp.me/p1twxj-pe.
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scotoma
Unfortunately, the exemplar Jesus Christ used abusive terms when speaking about the motives of the Pharisees.
He called them liars, off-spring of vipers, etc. and by doing so he returned evil for evil.
Wasn't it enough that he used logic to attack the practices of the Pharisees? Did he have to go for the jugular.
What's contemptible is that the Watchtower never even confronts the arguments of "apostates". Instead, it resorts to the labeling fallacy to
avoid having to defend their own irrational conclusions.
They use "theocracy" as an excuse to act in totalitarian ways.
The only reason Jesus could have had for riddiculing the religious leaders is to assure himself of martyrdom.
It is a human tendency to name-call when a discussion gets heated. But, I would give a free pass to the group that is not in power. I don't justify name calling but there is something to the idea of "speaking truth to power" as it appears Jesus was doing.
The Watchtower organization is totally in power. Their role is more like the religious leaders of Jesus' day. The Scribes and Pharisees had the power to kill opposers and would not hesitate to use it. Likewise, the Watchtower society has the power to symbolically kill "apostates" and they don't hesitate to use it. The Watchtower organization doesn't risk anything by name calling whereas "Apostates" martyr themselves when they speak out against the Watchtower. The Watchtower , by name calling show that their power isn't enough to keep people from abandoning their system. The Watchtower is afraid of losing their priveleged position just like the Scribes and Pharisees.
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Is the Universe Conscious?
by still thinking indoes the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
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scotoma
"At the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one."
Yeah! At the sub nuclear level of reality none of us exist.
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Is the Universe Conscious?
by still thinking indoes the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
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scotoma
Watched the video. Made myself watch it out of courtesy to this thread.
I cannot talk with people who think like that video.
There is a market for that kind of stuff obviously.
People love big empty spaces that they can fill with their imaginations.
There ARE differences. Even the video ends with the appeal "together we can make a difference".
The real message of that video is that NO-THING-MATTERS.
Also sick of the hypnotic trance-inducing tone of the "experts" voice.
You induce trance by softly repeating things that sound sensible but are really nonsense. "Feel yourself sinking into a hole that is everything and at the same time nothing. And as you sink deeper you feel at this deepest level a glow of warmth that could propel you to dizzying heights where you float on a cushion of feeling. blah blah. At the count of 5 you will awake feeling renewed."
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Evolution is Crap, there I said it!
by Crazyguy inok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.
the theory of major evolution is crap!
the theory is falling apart.
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scotoma
Cofty,
"Because this is a support forum for JWs. Creationism is a fundamental doctrine of the Watchtower. A doctrine that many ex-JWs are still stuck with."
Too bad Ray Franz isn't still alive. Do you think you could have convinced him that evolution is true.
The real problem is with ex JW's persistent irrational belief in the Bible. And even if you take the Bible out of the mix there are still a truck load of ex JW's that believe in some exotic wuwu - even reincarnation etc.
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Is This Site As Active As It Was In The Past?
by minimus ini'm just curious if jwn is as busy as it was even a year or two ago?
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sometimes it seems this place buzzes and other times, not so much....but maybe it's all in my head..
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scotoma
Search the subject of "declining forum posts". It's a problem just about everywhere.
Social network sites have taken a big slice of forum activity.
Content is precious and hard to produce. Those who can produce readable and engaging content start their own blogs and get their own following.
It's no fun to take time to write a post and watch it disappear over the time horizon.
Feedback on individual posts are essential to prevent serious posters from drifting away.
Forums need to use some of the simple techniques that facebook uses. Everything on the internet is subject to evolution.
Facebook will inevitably lose it's hold. There will be a resurgence of discussion boards as various formats merge their tools.
Simon is right where he needs to be.
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Evolution is Crap, there I said it!
by Crazyguy inok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.
the theory of major evolution is crap!
the theory is falling apart.
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scotoma
I don't understand why those who believe in evolution even get involved in these casual discussions about creation vs. evolution.
If you don't believe in god you must understand that life is too short to be wasted with people who are also going to die whether they believe in god or not.
It seems to be a profound waste of time.
If you are a scientist studying life origins just go about your business.
Public policy is an important arena for discussing these things and they are often settled in court.
The only ones with skin in these discussions are the god believers. They want to save souls and they feel that they are saving their own souls by defending their god.
What is the motive for ordinary people who love science to engage in these ignorant discussions.
You can go anywhere on the internet and find long involved threads that just rehash the same stuff. How many times do you need to see the musical Oklahoma?
Meanwhile vacines are saving lives. Asteroids are being tracked. Global climate is being monitored. Bumble Bee mortality is being investigated. Genomes are being mapped. Causes of disease are being verified along with cures.
If people in the United States and the Muslim world don't think that science is important then India, China and Europe will thrive and the countries that stifle scientific research will disappear.
There is an old Russian aphorism: "The parade passes and the dogs bark."
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Evolution is Crap, there I said it!
by Crazyguy inok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.
the theory of major evolution is crap!
the theory is falling apart.
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scotoma
So, Crazy Guy, you don't like living in big cities.
You love football.
You drive an SUV.
Those damn chem trails drive you buggy.
Vaccinations are an evil plot by the illuminati.
Your favorite song is "Gimme that ol' time Religion"