Posts by scotoma

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Need some advice...For my kids

by Jon Preston in

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since being out mentally and missing meetings my children mention people from the hall and i cant help but feel bad that they are missing the association.

my daughters are 4 and 2 and we live in a small town with not a whole lot to do.

what activities did you do with your kids?

scotoma

When I had a couple hours to spend with my young kids we would try to see how many parks we could get to. Each park is different. With different activities and equipment. Have them try everything out a couple times and then move on to the next park. On long afternoons we could get to 5 or 6 parks. That way you find out their favorite activities. Lots of conversation driving between parks.

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The Real Deal - The Best life Ever

by emeth in

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meet benny.

he had all the opportunities and talent to persue a 'higher' education and have a great career.

however he did meet someone and started a bible study... he changed his future... he changed his life and now, in his opinion, he has the best life ever.

scotoma

Emeth,

As much as they talk about this wonderful witness life - it's an illusion.

Talk to the JW's who went to prison for 3 to 5 years because they would have been kicked out of the organization if they did alternative service. Talk to Terry. I haven't read his book because I just can't hear that stuff any more.

Yeah they had a little bit of a frat life. Some of them got raped. Others beaten. Other's had their wives cheat on them while they were in jail. When they got out of jail they could never get a decent job because they were felons. They couldn't buy a house because they had a $10,000 fine hanging over them and to pay it was considered a compromise.

You don't even have an idea.

Then there's the 100% incidence of malaria on the West Coast of Africa where many missionaries were sent and lost their health.

The most successful people in the organization are the ones who came in AFTER they went to college and uninhibitedly fullfilled some of their sexual interests. Because they weren't rushed, they found mates that they actually got along with because they met them in college classes that assured they had shared interests. They didn't have to wash windows, paint, clean, lay carpet until they physically were broken. Some fortunate ones came from families that were well connected in the organization and got breaks because of who they knew.

You don't hear about the daughter of a witness couple that got divorced and was kicked out of the house at 18 and had to take menial jobs to survive. Some people don't have the stamina to be in with the alpha's. Some are never invited to gatherings of any sort because their father's aren't elders.

Then there are the skinny intellectual sisters that couldn't find a marriage mate in their small circle of witness friends. So, they pioneer, believing Jehovah is going to find them a mate. If they could have gone to college they would have met a lot of guys that would find them attractive and share the same intellectual interests. You see these pale corpses faithfully preaching and getting older and older. And when an older brother's wife dies who does he marry? Some young nymph that just barely became a witness.

I know a lot of JW's in their 60's and 70's that have had horrible lives simply because they sacrificed their youth to pioneer. Bad health. No insurance because they were stuck in self employment. If you wash windows for 10 years and then look for a job your resume scares people.

There is something sick about seeing those frat boys hanging out at a warm beach with palm trees and mountains in the distance. Try pioneering in a big northern city like Detroit, or Chicago.

The worst part about this is that the old timers who sacrificed so much dare not open their mouths about it because they will be labeled an apostate.

The deal was - we bought into our parents dream and trusted their judgement about "truth". We have now burried our parents. There is not a single writer of the crap that persuaded our parents that is alive today. All our teachers are dead. We are almost dead.

You see Emeth there are a lot of stories. Your success doesn't impress us. We have scars that are long and deep.

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Will anyone be in Jainesville Wisconsin for the circuit assembly?

by Brother Mike in

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i'm just curious if anyone in my area besides me who visits this site will be attending another boring assembly in janiesville wisconsin on april 12 and 13th?

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scotoma

That assembly hall was built a year before Armageddon (1974)

I should have paid attention to the mixed message.

Almost 40 years later they are still saying the end is near. BUT_

They are building their world HQ in Tuxedo NY. The hoopla is that Jehovah is blessing this project because everything is coming together so

smoothly. So, what's the message? If that building is going to take 3 more years to build and then you calculate the use of the building to justify the expenditure they really aren't expecting the end too soon. Of course there is the justification made by the GB that Jehovah may use that building after armageddon.

If armageddon were to come they won't need that particular building. Won't they kind of have a choice of ANY building that is still standing? And won't they have a choice of locations, and endless amounts of building materials if they wanted to build somewhere else?

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End Times or End of Age Predicted in the Bible?

by Maat13 in

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starting april 15th, 2014 on four successive jewish holidays there will be a blood moon.

significant events have occurred on each occasion?

anyone else following these events?.

scotoma

April 14 marks the anniversary of the Passover in 70CE when Titus initiated his attack on
Jerusalem. He waited until the city was full of celebrants to attack. That Passover was also a
lunar eclipse.

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Modern-Day Child Sacrifice

by XBEHERE in

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circuit assembly this weekend.

do's talk compared not having a family study or not teaching your children about jah to the apostate israelites sacrificing their children to molech at topheth in the valley of shinom.

yeah that's the same thing.

scotoma

Abraham get's blessed because he as good as offered up his son as a sacrifice.

God spared Abraham the act of actually killing his son.

But God expects parents to actually let their children die because of a symbol?

If Satan really existed he knew how to get JW's to blaspheme Jehovah and portray him as an egocentric self-serving cruel God. The Blood Policy was one of Satan's greatest hits.

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Designs, a ? energy healing..

by carla in

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hey designs,.

in another thread you said, "a brother who was a 'energy healer' would munch on seeds constantly through out the day, aka the birdman".

the guy was an energy healer?

scotoma

How unusual. JW's falling for quackery.

Thank God for the Placebo effect.

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Is Obama Giving Putin Ideas?

by scotoma in

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the guardian tues 25 march (julian borger).

"russian actions are a problem.

they don't pose the number one security threat to the united.

scotoma

Not too many people are concerned with these recent developments between Russia and the US.

At least people in the USA aren't worried. Life goes on as usual. Even Ukranians are still getting up and going to work, shopping, sending their kids to school. Humans are very resilient. Unless you are a refugee living in a tent settlement nothing changes the basic routines.

You hardly hear anyone at the hall bring up the resurgence of the Russian/USA conflict. The urge to speculate has been completely beaten out of the JW thought process. I have casually brought the subject up to various JW's and was told that the main thing is to keep preaching and that nothing of note will happen until the UN attacks Religion.

Only the "Faithful Slave" has the right to contemplate the meaning of world events. THEY are the seers. THEY are the only ones who are allowed to SEE. They certainly didn't see these recent events. They feel Jehovah guided them to take on a 4 year building project that will be finished in 3 more years. That project

XJW's are so tired of this that their eyes glaze over with the mere thought of Prophecy and World Events.

We are all victims of confirmation bias. We see what we want to see.

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Is Obama Giving Putin Ideas?

by scotoma in

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the guardian tues 25 march (julian borger).

"russian actions are a problem.

they don't pose the number one security threat to the united.

scotoma

The Guardian Tues 25 March (Julian Borger)

"Russian actions are a problem. They don't pose the number one security threat to the United
States. I remain much more concerned about the prospect of a nuclear weapon going off in
Manhattan," the president said, pointing out that was why he had begun a series of bi-annual
summits aimed at improving the security of weapons-grade fissile material stocks around the
world.

So, now, Mr. Putin you know how to get even with the USA and keep them out of your back
yard. Obama is not afraid of you. You're low on his list. He is afraid of terrorists exploding a nuclear
device in New York City.

And where might terrorists get hold of a nuclear weapon? Not Putin. Nooooo. He needs all
his bombs! Since he's so weak he would never pass one of his small bombs to Muslim terrorists.
Putin would never do anything so underhanded. He would want credit for any damage he could
do to the USA. If he sent a bomb on the back of a Muslim terrorist how could he ever get credit
for such a masterful plan.

The terrorists would get the credit. But wait a minute - Putin could escape blame.

Listen to what else Obama says about Putin/Russia.

"Russia is a regional power showing weakness over Ukraine. The fact that Russia felt it had to
go in militarily and lay bare these violations of international law indicates less influence, not
more."

What's Obama talking about? Does he think this is a pick-up game of basketball at some community
center where you just taunt and belittle your opponent with pregame "trash-talk"?

By the way these remarks were made at a heavily attended summit in The Hague where the
subject was setting standards governing security at nuclear sites and acceptance of international
inspections as part of the security arrangements. 35 countries agreed to the standards. Russia
and China were among the 18 countries at the summit that did not sign the agreement.

Putin's master plan was to create a Eurasian common market similar to the European union.
The West doesn't want Russia to do that because they fear that some sort of military
alliance similar to Nato would eventually emerge. Ukraine is the essential piece to that project's
success. Putin couldn't just let Nato get control of the strategic access Russia needs to the Black
Sea-Mediterranean and the Atlantic. So, now this sets his plan back because he has been forced
into a corner and had to respond militarily which of course scares off other countries from joining his project.

Sure Russia is weak. It doesn't want to fight Nato. He wants to be fully integrated in a multi-
polar world that isn't pushed around by the USA. There's two alternatives. 1. Become stronger
than your foe or 2. Weaken your foe by your compliance so that he is caught off guard.

Now which approach would a Judo expert like Putin take.

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