More people attracted by the future jworg promises than by the past "fulfillment".
See the period of rapid growth before 1975, then in 1980s, early 1990s when the generation was sooo old. Maybe after the WW2 they got some credit for their pacifism / persecution in the camps, but I feel people are coming to JWdom to have their panda and nice house after the A. The borg is exploiting problems like corruption, crime, wars, insecurity to covert new members.
april 26, 2016 to all congregations re: god’s kingdom rules!
to be considered at congregation bible study .
urghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.
The situation described in this article would easily be surrounded by nonJW family members, neighbors, friends, coworkers, acquaintances, and onlookers. Although WT can issue the command that nobody ask any questions about the judicial meeting and that nobody talk to the dfd, that certainly doesn't apply to all those nonJWs. And when the mother in this WT story recounts what has transpired and shows what the daughter wrote in the letter to any nonJW, what are they going to think? "What a bitch of a daughter in a stupid church. Poor mother."
What is really disgusting is the fact they are well aware of how the onlookers see the shunning. They put all effort to hide it carefully from the public. That's why https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/ is not not giving an accurate picture and that's why they dilute this dogma when asked by a journalist etc.
i was talking with a friend of mine who knows a few people in the home department at bethel.
apparently, prince was, as i noted in the title, on the board of directors.
he apparently was sort of a silent partner or advisor in the whole thing.
It is disgusting to see that double moral standard...
If "they" (i.e. worldly people, members of the harlot, mentally sick apostates, opposers, ...) do something it is bad.
When "we" (i.e. God's clean org.) do the same, it is a big difference, because we are THE TRUTH!
dunno if anyone saw this yet.
the comments are full of jw apologists.
http://www.people.com/article/prince-jehovahs-witness-conversion-history.
http://www.people.com/article/prince-jehovahs-witness-conversion-history
The discussion there is great. Not so many opportunities to see apostates debating with jdubs online.
doing a little thinking here, not really sure how the logistics work though.. lets say the link jw.org is posted here "x" number of times and numerous people click on said link.
it is my understanding the dubs can see how many hits they get from other websites but can they actually tell what websites the link is coming from?
if so..... i can picture a sunday talk given in the future... "apostate websites direct weak ones back to jehovah".
pbrow, you talk about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer
I have been always wondering if they monitor the referer values for HTTP requests they receive. They can discover apostates, if somebody is logged in jw.org and in the other tab he reads JWN, when he clicks reference to jw.org, they will see brother X.Y. is visiting them from an apostate web.
So those still with jw.org account ( ), be careful!
i recently decided to take matters into my own hands with my husbands family who have nothing to do with us.
his mom has seen my son twice since he has been born and his dad has never met him.
his family will pop in every few months, on top of that like in my last post ask for for money.
re shunning
there is kind of external / internal doctrine of shunning:
External: We shun murderers, thieves, ... according to the Bible principles. We do not break families, normal family relationship continues. see here: https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/
this is what they pretend toward the public.
Internal: see the paragraph 7 here: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2016127
This is what the org teaches in the meetings, talk, conventions.
They can always try to trick somebody and pick the right version based on audience.
And I fully agree with Carla. Either they stop shunning or it is better not to allow grandchildren to spend time with them, They will try to instill Watchtower into the children' minds.
will you be a survivor of the last days?.
serving with jehovah’s unified organization.
move ahead with jehovah’s unified organization.
Now i see in my comment i looked to the old outline...
anyway the new one - MOVE AHEAD WITH JEHOVAH’S UNIFIED ORGANIZATION - is also great:
What evidence is there that Jehovah also directs the earthly part of his organization?
Organizational refinements [Read Isaiah 60:17] (kr 120-125 ̊11-18)
Numerical growth [Read Isaiah 60:22] (kr 96-97; statistics from the latest Yearbook)
this is really the proof!
will you be a survivor of the last days?.
serving with jehovah’s unified organization.
move ahead with jehovah’s unified organization.
wifibandit, thank you for sharing these!
It seems nice talks will be based on the new outlines
Some become critical, saying that Jehovah does not have an organization
May say that loving one’s fellowman is what really counts or that having a personal relationship with God is
the really important thing or even that personally reading the Bible is sufficient (rs 326-8)
Those who adopt such viewpoints are like Satan
They break away from the Father, Jehovah (1Ti 1:19, 20; 2Ti 2:16-19)
In other words they say Russell was like Satan when he broke from Barbour? When he said there is no organization?
