Hey Marilyn, It seems we are kinda having similar problems (read my post above). These dubs really are so stupid that they can't see what a fantastic thing you are doing for your parents.
Marilyn Ps I have a dub aunt who is an Audrey.
one of my daughters in law works in admitting, at a local hospital, and her mother works there too.
this week, one of the 'sisters' (audrey), from mom's congregation, was visiting someone at the hospital and dropped by to visit these gals.
only the mother was there, and audrey started talking about how awful it is that my mother has to live with us now.
Hey Marilyn, It seems we are kinda having similar problems (read my post above). These dubs really are so stupid that they can't see what a fantastic thing you are doing for your parents.
Marilyn Ps I have a dub aunt who is an Audrey.
this is the deal: i'm disfed as of 1981. i've known the shunning thing all these years.
i have devout jw siblings and my parents are jws but not active or unreasonably devout.
my father is 80 and my mother is 77. my mother has metastatic breast cancer and is currently receiving treatment.. .
This is the deal: I'm disfed as of 1981. I've known the shunning thing all these years. I have devout JW siblings and my parents are JWs but not active or unreasonably devout. My father is 80 and my mother is 77. My mother has metastatic breast cancer and is currently receiving treatment.
The Government has supplied carers and various home services for my parents which have worked out quite well for the last three years. My parents are particulary fond of the lady who comes three hours a week to do light house work or take them to the doctor or out to lunch if they feel like it.
My JW sister lives close by but until 6 weeks ago has not been overly involved in helping my parents in any way. Apart from nagging my father to go to the meetings and providing transport for them when they were able to attend.
Because my sister's husband is a PO and window cleaner extraordinaire they don't have much money. In recent times they have been pressuring my parents to subdivid their large suburban block into two so they could build a house on the spare block and ostensibly look after my parents. In my opinion they just wanted the block of land and used the looking after theme to get the land for nothing. My mother has finally said no to them having the land and they appear to have given up asking (for the moment).
So the latest scheme is for my sister to apply to the Government for a carers allowance to look after my parents on a daily basis. My sister, who hasn't been actively involved in caring for my parents until 6 weeks ago has already put in the papers to receive this allowance. The worst part being that my parents will likely lose their regular carer who they have become very attached to - and who is extremely reliable.
So I got on the phone to my sister this morning and told her that I thought it was very unethical for her to apply for money to look after her parents - and I didn't want my parents to lose their regular carer just so my sister could get money from the Governemtn. I told her that it was her christian obligation to look after her parents and I couldn't believe she wanted money for it.
Where do I fit in? I live an hours plane flight away. However I visit my parents three times a year and work my butt off to fix up their garden or paint out rooms or thoroughly clean the house while I'm there. BUT I don't live there and my sister was quick to remind me of that.
Anyway I made my sister cry. She's such a sad little person with a typical domineering husband who's pretty well made her life a misery. And all I can do is make her life even harder! Yet I've had to put up with their acting all superior towards me coz I left Jehovah bla bla bla. I feel like a real shit for making my sister cry. Yet I never received a moments compassion when I was disfellowshipped and shunned for no longer believing the WTS was the truth. Why do I feel such a shit?
Marilyn
the past few weeks i have been comnunicating with jw's in my area who attend kh meetings physically but not mentally.
they are "closet apostates" or "double agents".
some are planning to leave the area altogether to avoid the hassles of being shunned.. according to one of these "closet apostates", he believes that 30% if not more of the members in his congregation would leave if it were not for the shunning.
We really need a guestimate of how many people are being shunned. The public aren't interested unless they know someone personally who is affected, or if there are sufficient numbers which case it makes people sit up and think. Generally the public don't care about minority groups. :-(
do any of you other lurkers or posters ever give a thought to the poeple - not publishers - who may have helped you learn 'the truth about the the truth?
' i'm talking about ex jehovah's witnesses like myself who have been there, done that, seen the light, and are trying to shine it on others.. just over 2 years ago now when i got banished to the bottom of our earth - to a dying mining town in western tasmania on my first and last mts assignment - yours truly started wondering what the heck had become of his life.
i got lonely - real lonely - then on the net, only to find, not solace, but salvation; by discovering all the stuff i'd swallowed from the wtb&t society for the previous 20 years had really been just a pack of dated, if even manipulative theories.
Hey Uncanny - it gets curiouser and curiouser coz I saw Spenders post come up and I emailed Alan to tell him his fan club was asking for him. Alan didn't reply to me so he may have seen the post unaided but I wanted to do what I could to help. I was richly rewarded by reading Alan's reply and his story on the H20 site. It's a great read don't you think? I thought it was very interesting how long it took Alan to give up on the Society.
David and I have stayed with Alan and Julie (last century) and Alan's research is mind boggling. It's truly incredible. David has done a Ph.d. bla bla bla but thinks Alan has several Ph.d's in the form of WTS research - just sitting around unpublished. He's a truly amazing guy.
Btw we have something in common - Tasmania was our place of enlightenment. David and I didn't have any help though. We kinda woke up over a number of years. In the late 70's there were no apostates (except for scary fundi christian exjw's) to give us guidence. However we talked and talked to each other over at least four years and with the help of badly behaved Witnesses we walked away in 1980. We must have hooked up with the Internet in 1996 and visited Alan and Julie in 1997. Even after all that time "out" it was an absolute blast to meet such great exjws on the net and in person.
Lovely post
Don't forget we are in Melbourne and we're vaguely decent company (says she modestly!). Actually David is working in HK at the moment but he comes home a lot.
take care
Marilyn
heres a few pics from italy.
this is me on the amalfi coast, just outside the town of positano:.
heres her ladyship looking into the volcanic crater on vesuvius:.
God is punishing Englishman for showing off! Ha ha!
Marilyn
woohoo, he did it, he proposed, omg the wedding is in a month, help!!!!!!!!!!
what do i wear, how do i do my hair, this is my second marriage and we are doing it at the registry office, what do you think girls?
evening dress?
Congratulations Chezza. Buy something simple but elogant. A wedding dress seems a bit OTT (over the top). Your aim should be to compliment your glowing face. Get some beautiful flowers and find a hair stylist who is good at what they do and then just enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!
marilyn
i decided to say hello to all my fellow posters after a week of absence.
nothing insightful to say other than my trip to hong kong was a blast.
i hooked up with about 7 or 8 aussies and we did up hong kong right.
Perry, my husband and I have lived in Hong Kong on and off for years (since 1985). My husband is working there at the moment. He's an exjw. It's a pity he didn't know you were coming thru coz he's have joined in with the Aussie group and added to the fun. We are Australian too. Next time eh?
Marilyn (I love Hong Kong!)
The one that isn't in the grave.
Marilyn
sorry it's been some time since i posted but i was busy rearranging my life.
just wondering what the general consensus is among posters on this board to this question, is death the end of existance, or a portal to a new reality?
my 2 cents, death is only the beginning of a new reality.
I'm not expecting anything after my life is over, but then I didn't expect to be here this time. That's the nice thing about not expecting things. If they happen it's great and if they don't then we're not disappointed.
Marilyn
years ago an evangelical christian couple invited me into their home on a hot summer day.
over glasses of lemonade they shared their amazing theory about the watchtower society, a twisted but insanely plausible one that has mentally percolated over the years.
every now and then their theory surfaces in my thoughts with occasional "what if" scenarios about the true nature of the mysterious "men behind the curtain in oz" (with oz being a metaphor for the vatican city of jehovah's witnesses' world that is headquartered in new york state).
Where do the Mormons fit into this theory?