Posts by Marilyn

LB, I'm already feeling emotional today. It was set off by seeing this dog when I was out walking this morning. She/he is always there, shut up and lonely and sooooo happy that I stopped and talked to her/him. I just hate it that people get pets and don't look after them properly.

You gave your dog a wonderful life. That's the only solace we can take from their passing. I'm sure it's hurting like hell right now. I'm way too attached to my cat (pictured left). . I sure know just how you are feeling. I'm really happy that you loved your dog and gave her a good life.

Marilyn

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The elder at my door today........omg

by LyinEyes in

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ok, bear with me, i am a little shook up.

most everyone knows we just left town one day to work, and never went back to the kingdom hall.

that was over a year ago.

Marilyn

:::::::::::they are sitting here and my hands are shaking, just to see the books , and hold them, make me so afraid. What if I read it and get sucked back in by it? I just wont read them. But will my curiosity get the better of me?

I mostly feel unnerved when I have an encounter with Witnesses (and I left in 1979). I feel it's because it's taken such a huge chunk out of our lives in oh so many ways. I think some of us suffer post traumatic stress of sorts over the whole deal. Please don't be afraid to read the books. They have no power over you now. In fact you should read them. It won't take you five seconds to see the manipulation and pathetic attempts to coerce you to their way of thinking. You have learned how to think critically now - you won't be seduced by their shallow efforts to draw you into their house of cards. YOU CANNOT UNRING A BELL - you have seen thru them and you will never be able to buy their crap again - even if you wanted to.

I feel sad for you over your love of the elder. Life is very full of sadness. So many things make me want to cry. That's just something we all have to live with. I am jsut back from a walk and I pass a neglected dog each day - he's so beautiful and so intelligent and so lonely that my heart just breaks for his sad life. I'm not even a dog lover for god's sake. Life is harsh - but we have to accept the things we cannot change.

Hugs to you,

Marilyn

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OFN Message Board to close down

by NeonRainbow in

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i just got this email from the founder of this jw board... i wonder which "large apostate board" he is talking about.

(this whole thing makes me think of spy vs. spy): .

date:10 jul 2002 12:02:30 -0700to:from:[email protected] | block address | add to address booksubject:ofn message board to close down

Marilyn

::::::::::::Yet these enlightened people are awfully

negative to be enlightened or healthy emotionally

I wish I knew how to put a positive spin on being wrong. Actually I think

our sarcasm is an attempt to lighten up the whole depressing mess

the WTS has created. I really don't know why we don't promote some

Disney on ice alternative therapy for those leaving the Tower. Clearly

they need something to cheer them up.

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Why don't you just leave?

by beroea in

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many still inside facing all the wrongdoings and still go on to the meetings, keep preaching the good news from door-to door and all the duties of the normal jv lives.

are you one of those - or were - that for a long time, what really what made you stay even coming to the point of no-believe in the chronology and the gb?

there were at time of facing the truth of the truth.

Marilyn

Habit.

Though nothing is ever simple is it? My husband and I left when there was no internet, no books (that we knew of) and no so called apostates to talk to. So we basically took a very long time to think our way out of it. We must have muddled along for about 3 yrs, trying to work out what we believed. For the last year I couldn't go witnessing because my conscience wouldn't allow it. In the end we were just going thru the motions and I think it was just habit. Plus fear of leaving an established lifestyle (as crumby as it was). We had to start over with making friends etc. It was the late 70's and it was scary at first.

One thing that helped us was the birth of our 2nd child. He was a screamer 20/24 hours. It seemed an excellent time to stop the treadmill of meetings. (every cloud has a silver lining eh?)

I didn't know we'd be disfellowshipped for leaving. Had I known that I might have been forced to pretend for much longer.

Marilyn

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Aussie wins "WIMBLETON"

by refiners fire in

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as both an ozzie...and a pom.....and in view of the fact that an ozzie won the major pommie tennis event.. i ask (again) that question which has perplexed me lo these many years..... .

why do bloody australians call it wimbleton???

?edited by - refiners fire on 10 july 2002 7:6:30.

Marilyn

:::::::::::WHY do bloody Australians call it WIMBLETON????

Bloody poms............ always complaining!!!!

Marilyn

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Future Topics

by Guest 77 in

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i'm surprised that the society hasn't come out with new topics such as "stay the course" "don't rock the boat or rather the boat is being rocked, sign of the end!

" it can go either way.. just as the the ark was tossed around in the raging rough waters, so to the society (ark) is going through rough waters/times 'within' the organization, these raging waters are the apostates who are rocking the boat.

'stay the course' would be a follow-up article, what do you think?

Marilyn

Anther one they've missed is: Would you believe anything your ex wife or ex husband said? So why believe anything an exjw says? Though totally misleading, the Society likes these kinds of spurious analogies - it appeals to the simple minds they've created.

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Spare the rod and spoil the child?

by Marilyn in

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i saw a report on tv just now of how two baptist mininisters beat the living daylights out of some kid for not attending the correct bible class.

the kid suffered kidney damage and the ministers have been arrested.

this reminded me of how my jw brother used to take his boys out the back and beat them black and blue every time his patience ran out with them for not sitting still for 2+ hours.

Marilyn

Dustrabbit, I heard that Shenzhen is fairly disgusting to visit. The pollution situation in China is just awful, but it doesn't seem to be highly related to breast cancer. Lung cancer & heart disease maybe. Traditionally the chinese have eaten much less animal fat as part of their daily calorie intake than western people. Something like 16% of calories consummed are in the form of animal fat compared to 34% in the western diet. (figures are approx). Your comment about the McDonalds where you are sounds much like hk. When we first moved to hk in 85, our local McDonalds outlet was the busiest in the world. Also I've noticed that the Chinese don't really understand western food. They are much less discerning about what is disgusting than we are (and god knows we're not verydiscerning). It's been my observation that the more greesy and disgusting a fast food is, the quicker the Chinese jump in to consume it. The only thing is that it won't affect the older generation as it will the kids. This is because older people were raised on a good diet.

It's been well documented that Japanese women who migrated to Hawaii have increased risk of bc compared with those who stayed in Japan. However the daughters of the immigrants have the 1 in 8 risk factor the same as other American women. No real pollution factor - just diet I'm afraid. I have strong family history of bc so am very intereted in this subject. Korea and Thailand have lowest bc rates in the world. Interesting?

Marilyn ps diesel from taxis & trucks in hk is the worst problem.

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JANH TO PERISH TONIGHT!

by The_Bad_Seed in

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tonight at the stroke of midnight*, the one who calls herself janh will be eaten alive; via an attack of a bag of savage, demonic, multi-colored kraft marshmallows that i have cast a powerful spell upon, for repeatedly accusing me in the chatroom yesterday of a bearing a multi identity on this site, as also being the one you have all come to know and love, father naeblis, the greek god of desire.. all i can do now, is hope to, and look forward to this much anticipated event!

tickets can be purchased directly through ticketmaster, or, given to you free of charge provided you do some sort of random act of kindness, without one, an event of such evil (albeit deserving) magnitude could very well throw off the balance of the earth.

transportation the responsibility of the attendee.. not responsible for lost or stolen socks.. in the words of my apparent 'alter ego':.

Marilyn

The_Bad_Seed is a false prophet. I wonder where he/she picked up such retarded foretelling of future events? Unless of course he WAS eaten by marshmellows and he doesn't know he's now a great big creamy poof - living in the new world order?

Marilyn

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Spare the rod and spoil the child?

by Marilyn in

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i saw a report on tv just now of how two baptist mininisters beat the living daylights out of some kid for not attending the correct bible class.

the kid suffered kidney damage and the ministers have been arrested.

this reminded me of how my jw brother used to take his boys out the back and beat them black and blue every time his patience ran out with them for not sitting still for 2+ hours.

Marilyn

Dustrabbit, We never learned Cantonese, which was the tradititonal language in HK up until 97, besides English of course. They are forcing Putonghua on HK quite a bit now. Putonghua news on at prime time etc. We were only going to stay 2 yrs and then it was for just another 2 yrs and so on - so we never learned the lingo. Save a few words here and there.

My fixation with the body shape is down to certain diseases that the Chinese have been immune to till recently. For example breast cancer in the US is now affecting one in 8 women. Traditionally Chinese women have had extremely low rates of bc - yet as they chow down on western tucker the incidence of breast cancer (and prostate cancer in men) is rocketing. It seems to have happened very quickly in HK.

It sounds sensible of you to get away from your current situation. When you are in a hole, stop digging. I'm sure you will love being back on US soil.

Marilyn I think I've digressed from the subject even more than you!!!