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  To stay or leave....

  by Dawn in

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  it probably sounds crazy to post this on a forum where "alias" individuals will respond - but i really would like to hear from some of you who may have been in this situation before.. i'm at a cross roads in my marriage and need to decide whether to stay or leave.. long story short:.

  hubby is basically a good man - good father, but i am not happy.

  i have not been for a long time now.

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  Marilyn

  Dawn, It sounds like some of your husbands faults are down to you. You have allowed him to be this way - probably since the beginning. I'm constantly surprised by women who acquiesce to their men, because they lack confidence and courage to demand more from them. Did or do you suffer from low self esteem per chance?

  I think you need to take a good hard look at yourself and ask yourself why this "good man" doesn't show enough interest in you or the things that interest you? Why is he so self centered and selfish? Basically because you've let him be this way from the outset. Ever heard of 'start as you mean to go on'?

  It's time you started making your presence felt. It's time you turned HIS life upside down. Don't just walk out without giving your husband an opportunity to shape up. You soooooooooooo need to make a stand - not a half assed one either. You work out what it is you want from this guy and you demand it.

  If it doesn't work out then leave. I can see why you would want to leave, but I wouldn't be so fast to give up on your husband. I'd be letting him know, in very clear terms, just how fed up and desperate you are and that if he doesn't lift his game you are gone. But make sure you know what it is you want from him.

  all the best
  Marilyn
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  AM I NORMAL?

  by bay64me in

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  i have been meeting-free for a year now, (although i did attend the last memorial mainly out of curiosity).

  i have learned enough now, since leaving "the truth" to know that i'm never going back.

  but i was wondering how long it takes to get all of the shit out of your head?

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  I was born in the troof and left it and most of my family when I was in my mid-twenties. I am now 57. And I can still get furious about my treatment at the hands of: the GB and it's stupid interpretations; my family for being so brain-dead; my "friends" who couldn't reason their way out of a paper bag. I did bring three friends, my ex-wife and my children out with me, though.
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  Yikes! Someone who's been "out" longer than me!! Francious I always love reading your posts - I had no idea you have been out so long. It seems your situation is very much like mine. e.g. "I can still get furious about my treatment at the hands of: the GB and it's stupid interpretations; my family for being so brain-dead; my "friends" who couldn't reason their way out of a paper bag."

  TELL ME ABOUT IT!!!! Admittedly 'the law of deminishing returns' takes care of some of the emotions - but it's difficult not to live in the past and remember the family as they were, pre dubdom. I am often totally incredulous that one or two of my siblings haven't thought their way out of the Org. I just don't get how they can subject themselves to it, year in, year out ... all this time (I left in 1979!).

  As for bay64me, change is always difficult. Since leaving the Org, I have moved around a few times, including living in an entirely new culture. I've learned that it takes at least two years to acclimatise to a new life style. And that's a conservative estimate. It takes time to build up new friends, activities and hobbies to fill in the void left by the WT treadmill. There is nothing wrong with hanging out here obsessively for as long as you feel the need. You will cool off in time. When you are ready to move on, you will find the fascination less intense. Then you will graduate to a more moderate approach - like mine or Francois. BUT, you will probably never fully recover from the WT experience. You just have to learn to live with it - and work hard to find other aspects of life that fulfil you.

  Marilyn
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  What was your crisis

  by JG in

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  what was your crisis of conscience, moment of clarity, epiphany or realization?

  i am so interested in what got you thinking.

  blessing to you,.

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  For me it was the way our family relationships disintergrated after we became JWs. We had all got on quite well before The Troof - but after we became good little dubbies, with dubbie partners, there was constant undercurrents of bad feelings, resentfulness and outright nastiness. It was so intolerable to me, that one day I realised that we couldn't possibly be in the true religion. "By the love you have amongst yourselves, all will know you are my disciples" = NOT US!

  Marilyn
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  Dateline Aftermath

  by silentlambs in

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  the result of the airing of the dateline program has been very positive.

  dateline program will no doubt air again in reruns and may get further coverage soon.

  there have been many mixed emotions as a result of this program.

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  Marilyn

  And Dateline was only aired in America. What about the rest of the Jehovah's Witness world??

  Marilyn
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  what is your favorite movie?

  by airwlk149 in

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  what is everyone's favorite movie?.

  and why?.

  mine is 'never been kissed' with drew barrymore because that was me in high school!!!!

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  Yeah, Pulp Fiction was excellent. My favorite, based on how much I enjoy it every time I see it, is Bird Cage. Followed by Dirty Rotton Scandrals.

  Marilyn
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  Shaking Hands with Death - Part 3

  by Amazing in

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  shaking hands with death part 3: .

  the angioplasty begins: the cardiologist arrived from the other hospital, and started telling everyone what he needed.

  more medical staff showed up soon after, and the room was insane ... just like on tv ... short tempers demanding this or that device or assistance, people yelling out my vital readings, and i got a brief glance of the operating room door with people in green outfits, head caps, and face masks bopping in and out.

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  I feel a joke coming on.......... A guy survives a massive heart attack is is now well enough to return home. The cardiologist visits him one last time before the discharge. "Any questions?" says the doctor? The patient looks uncomfortable but presses ahead. "Yes doctor. I was wondering whether it is ok for me to have sex when I get home or would that be too dangerous in my condition?" The doctor smiles reassuringly. "Oh yes, that is perfectly alright, BUT only with your wife - we don't want you getting too excited!!!"

  Welcome home Jim and thanx for sharing!
  Marilyn
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  Bowen gives WBTS another Dilemma

  by Nanoprobe in

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  i think bill bowen has given the watchtower another dilemma.. has anyone had a chance to read bills letter to the draffenville body of elders?.

  there isnt a link to the page but its: http://www.silentlambs.com latest info, bowen letter judicial committee 5-20-02. youll enjoy the entire letter but below is an excerpt:.

  a second area that gives greater cause for concern are the other comments that appear to be malicious and slanderous in their context, i offer you the following:.

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  Marilyn

  The other thing I'd like to say is that disfellowshipping the people on Dateline is basically understandable - if you think as JWs. BUT why don't they be honest and make truthful statements. e.g. "These people are not team players and we don't permit independent thinking and individual agenda's in the Jehovah's Witness Organisation." What would be the problem with saying something as simple as that? Why lie by inuendo and inference? It's disgusting.

  Marilyn
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  Bowen gives WBTS another Dilemma

  by Nanoprobe in

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  i think bill bowen has given the watchtower another dilemma.. has anyone had a chance to read bills letter to the draffenville body of elders?.

  there isnt a link to the page but its: http://www.silentlambs.com latest info, bowen letter judicial committee 5-20-02. youll enjoy the entire letter but below is an excerpt:.

  a second area that gives greater cause for concern are the other comments that appear to be malicious and slanderous in their context, i offer you the following:.

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  Marilyn

  I would like to point out that this is not a new ploy of the WTS. I was disfed in 1981, on the grounds of apostasy. (I had stopped believing in God and had left the Organisation quietly - I was a conservative married woman with two small children). My brother instigaged a charge of apostasy against me, for conversations I had with him when he came to find out why I had left.

  We were a well known family in a well established supportive neigbhourhood. We had not always been JWs. One of the neighbours that had known my brother and I since we were babies, approached my brother and told him that it was shocking that I had been cut off from my family for leaving the Witnesses. My brothers answer? Oh she wasn't just disfellowshipped for leaving! To this day my neighbour probably thinks I did something evil - when in fact I WAS disfellowshipped for leaving the Organisation. Nothing more, nothing less. It is slander and it's deceitful and it's cowardly of the WTS to use this ploy. It is a most effective way of casting doubt on a persons character and actions without ever having to make an explanation. I'm tempted to print out the above post and send to to my neighour and show her how the JWs use this trick when ever they are painted into a corner.

  Marilyn
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  Story: My first cats

  by Jim_TX in

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  it was sufficient for a single person such as myself, and i went about making it livable.. i got me a dog, weasel which i have written about and i then got me a couple of cats.

  this story is about how i acquired my first two cats.. i worked at a company where cats kinda got taken to and left.

  they were kinda wild after a while and other cats were born well, you know how it goes.. there was this one cute little female calico kitten that i would take lunch scraps to and others would also put out little bowls of milk for.. i started trying to get her confidence talking to her and letting her hear my voice.

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  I love people who are kind to animals.

  hugs
  Marilyn
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  The "Troof" about Alan F. Secrets Out

  by noidea in

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  he is a "babe magnet" .

  yes, those that met me over the weekend at the silentlambs vigil know that in person i am a shy and reserved type.

  when it came to picture taking time..who could resist.

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  So Julie, what you're saying is - some guys need viagra but all you have to do is quote a couple of WT prophecies (no need to say false as they are all false) and Alan goes wild! Mmmm, I think you should have kept this gem to yourself. :-)))

  I loved your email btw. You inspired me - I'm back on the straight and narrow. I owe you!!

  love
  Marilyn