i never knew it was as simple as this!!!.
http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html.
member of the: i have ~no-idea~ class.
My daughter (when doing her med training) met an entire family who were convinced the neighbours were aliens who were trying to kill them. My daughter was told by her tutor that this was called GROUP DELUSION. Anyway this family had put foil up to all their windows to deflect the rays from the aliens guns. Interesting huh?
Of course when I heard about group delusion I thought of............. oh never mind!
Miss you??? Hey, we've just been filling in time till you returned!
Marilyn :))))))))
many hundreds of people read this site who are not subscribed, and i would suspect that the vast majority are jw's looking for answers to an internal turmoil that they may be living with.. the information posted on this board does get read and then passed among many congregations of jw's.
this information is a powerful force and is a wonderful thing for those who are seeking to be informed, and a not so wonderful thing to those in brooklyn who are seeking to harness the boundaries of knowledge.. given this scenario, and how much credibility can be lost by xjw's who perpetuate gossip and innuendo, can we check our sources and facts very carefully before we post information to this board.
there is no particular nobility in being first with news about some aspect of wts life.
I've come to this discussion rather late, but I am guilty of saying snide remarks about my family members who are also elders. Even though my family are just people, they are people who have personally done me a great deal of harm. I've been on the receiving end of their hypocrisy and double standards and I find one or two of them to be very small people indeed. I'm usually pretty on the money re what I say about them - though I have no doubts that if the dub were taken out of them, they might be half decent people.
Actually though, you raise an interesting point. Accuracy in reporting may be important, but some of the subjects for discussion are far from suitable if it's our intention to help JWs to wake up. Some of the best posters here talk about wanting blow jobs etc from other desirable posters bla bla bla. Whilst I know this is just banter and very innocent for the most part, JWs looking in are not able to differentiate between what is playful naughtiness and what is truly wrong (many of the things they do).
This has been a problem since the inception of exjw internet sites. However I've been a member of one site or anotehr since 1996 and the numbers are growing fast. I guess our numbers would grow even faster if we could tame the little crowd, but it doesn't seem possible and in some ways I don't think it's fair to inflict rules that stiffle and which may or may not help Jo Witness to wake up. In some ways I don't feel responsible for getting people out. What can't be changed, must be endured.
Marilyn
i just gave blood at work.
another big bad horrible thing that i was taught was evil, debunked.. peace,.
mike pence.
My husband, an exjw, has given blood twice in the last 6 months. He only started doing it recently. I'm too much of a wuss. The terrible thing is that I wouldn't be too much of a wuss to receive blood, if my life depended on it. Oops.
Marilyn
one of my sons is a really gung-ho jw.
here's a response i sent to my son after he sent me an e-mail about the recent publicity over dateline.
it couldn't get me df'd could it, if he turns it over.
Grunt, It sounds like you would have been more careful if you'd understood what your daughter was capable of. I was *caught* in much the same way as you. My brother used to come to our house and ask questions about why we left. It was the late 70's and I didn't know you could be disfed for being honest in the privacy of your own home(especially as I didn't invite the discussions). I haven't seen that brother now for over 20 yrs. ;-(
Pat, it's impossible to know how your son will react. Of course his starting and finishing point is: He has the TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE truth and anyone who criticises his truth is an enemy and working for Satan. It really does seem pointless to discuss anything with someone who thinks like that. On the other hand I'm fast coming to the conclusion that we soft handle our dubbie loved ones, because we are afraid of losing them - like we haven't already. I sometimes think we should be jumping up and down screaming at them to wake up!
Marilyn
i just recently read a post on another board where a person claiming to be a witness claims that she called the society as was informed by them that it was all right to have one's own blood stored for future use.
anyone else heard of this?
am i just slipping behind the times or could she be mistaken about the matter?
Geez, we weren't allowed to store blood in our day (the 70's)!!!! Yet another back flip?
Marilyn
attorney at law.
6-6-02. draffenville congregation of jehovahs witnesses.
attn: george bandarra .
It would be so much easier if they would stop trying to tie in their actions in with pseudo Biblical principals. As Hunt pointed out - they are failing miserably, so why not just send you a letter stating that they are dispensing with the usual effort to make their actions appear scriptural and they are disfellowshipping you because you wouldn't shut up about how they handle child molestation cases in the congregation. (at least you'd have no legal recourse if they did that).
I sure hope your legal rep is up to the fight. The WTS has a lot of money (too much of it donated from us!).
Marilyn
nobody here wants to lived in the new earth aka the coming earthly paradise?
nothing in the bible is symbolic, because saying things that are symbolic in the bible, is like calling jehovah a liar, god would not write something like in the bible, then out of no where, it really means something else... example: 144,000, some people said's that's symbolic, lol yea right.... .
anyway it seems like no one here wants to lived in the new earth, my question is why?
You got it. I don't want to live on a Paradise Earth. OK???????? Now will you go away!!!
i just got an email from my jw-elder-dad (correspondence is rare).
mom & dad will not be attending my grandfather's funeral because it is a military ceremony.
the response is so borg-conceived i must quote some:.
Dear Professor, Your father's letter was beautiful - everyone who has had a frontal labotomy would say the same. As for the rest of us? Anti nausea medication or try hitting your skull against a brick wall for a little lite relief! "I know you won't understand us son"? I wonder how he knows that? Does it mean your dad has a couple of brain cells still functioning???
Sheesh!
Marilyn
i came late to fatherhood.
my daughter was born when i was 43 and my son when i was 47. becoming a father has been the most profound experience of my life.
nothing has taught me more about the love of god than having children.
I think you have hit upon a very interesting aspect of what is wrong with the WTS. Their lack of appreciation for the harm they are doing to thousands of people via shunning can be better understood by their childlessness. I agree that having children developes a kind of sensitivity that is almost unattainable without the process. I have often wondered how they could be so cruel, and today you have shed some light on that question for me.
Marilhn
