Just another example of double standards. If you get babtized, then more is expected & you are more "punishable" but if you're smart- and don't get babtized, then the sin isn't as bad, or something like that! Why would anyone get babtized? What are the benefits? More reprocussions than benefits. Like getting babtized is some mark of life or something. If I knew of ANYONE getting involved in the organization, I would do my best to talk them out of it- if they insisted- I'd say at least don't get babtized. Babtism ruins lives. I had a friend who never got babtized- grew up in "the truth" decided to leave when she was 16- smoked, did drugs, had sex, got piercings, tattoos- etc, but she had no "label" on her- so her parents still talked to her. I married a "worldy" guy- and maybe had sex once (LOL) before we got married- and I got dissed. Same sins, different labels. What a crock.
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Fear, perhaps?
by bigboi inhave u ever noticed that ppl contemplating becoming dubs actually experience a good bit of fear in the process?
all the recent talk of disfellowshipping brought this to mind.
ok, i know that when anyone is thinking about making any kind of committment there is a little apprehensiveness and anxiety.
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Most Embarrasing Witness Moment from Childhood
by Perfection Seeker inanyone on here have a "most embarrasing witness moment" from childhood?
mine is from 7th grade- that was 20 years ago- but i still cringe when i think of it.
almost too hard to write down- but maybe it will be therapeutic & part of the healing process?
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LYING EYES- I am SO grateful to read you put JESUS on your voting! I feel MUCH better. I cannot believe the torment Witness children go through. It makes me outraged to think of what they put their children through! Yet, they will be the FIRST to say how weird the David Koresh thing was, or other cults, or the Osama followers. What crock.
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YES! I AM FREE AT LAST!
by Kjell Hedblom ini just got out from jw bye a d.f.
4 weeks ago after 44 years as an active jw.am i insane or why am i having that great feeling of freedom??
i am sitting here infront of the computer having a cold beer and just enjoying life.shouldnt i be crying and having a depression sitting here in tears over missing all my jw friends that now are vanished??.
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HI! Hey- as an elder- do you have any "inside tips" to help deal with witnesses family members who pressure you? :-) When I was disfellowshipped in 97- it was a HUGE relief not to be in their clutches. I got reinstated because my dad was sick- although I have "faded" now- still in their clutches with people stopping to "encourage" me out in service, my entire family preaching to me- and trying to save me, etc. BUT, as an elder- if you have key points to help them or shut them up- I'd love to hear them! Go have another beer- and *SMILE* :-)
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Double Standards
by Perfection Seeker indid anyone else have witness parents who the congregation thought were the "model" family, yet behind closed doors all hell broke loose?
i remember a time when my family was choosen to do a part at an assembly about the ideal family- yet behind the scenes, we were beat, yelled at, sworn at, never studied, had a family from hell, yet others always commented how "perfect" and christian our family was.
being a witness leaves deep & permanent scars.
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HI everyone! My heart stopped when I read Iowans in here- I should be comforted, but at first I freaked out- still trying to "STALL" my disfellowshipping" lol. I am in the Cedar Rapids area. Anyone want to come with me to my Judicial hearings? LOL. Actually, I talked to my sister yesterday- she thinks I have faded away enough that only my mother will hassle me- and not the "brothers" I hope that is the case!
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Most Embarrasing Witness Moment from Childhood
by Perfection Seeker inanyone on here have a "most embarrasing witness moment" from childhood?
mine is from 7th grade- that was 20 years ago- but i still cringe when i think of it.
almost too hard to write down- but maybe it will be therapeutic & part of the healing process?
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MEMO FROM GOD
Date: TODAY
From: THE BOSS
Subject: YOURSELF
Reference: LIFE
I am God. Today I will be handling all of your problems. Please
remember that I do not need your help.
If life happens to deliver a situation to you that you cannot handle,
do not attempt to resolve it. Kindly put it in the SFGTD (something for God
to do) box. All situations will be resolved, but in My time, not yours.
worrying about it. Instead, focus on all the wonderful things that are
present in your life now.
people in this world for whom driving is an unheard of privilege.
of work for years.
who has never known what it's like to love and be loved in return.
in dire straits, working twelve hours a day, seven days a week to feed her
children.
Think of the paraplegic who would love the opportunity to take that walk.
patient in chemo who wishes she had hair to examine.
about, asking what is my purpose? Be thankful. There are those who didn't
live long enough to get the opportunity.
ignorance, smallness or insecurities; Remember, things could be worse. You
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I Just Can't Do It!
by Sentinel ini was rather surprised to see this subject in the forum, and so it peeked my curiousity.. when i was floundering in the borg, i really slowed down to a snails pace as far as reading any of the wt literature.. when i decided to walk away, (at the time with guilt and self doubt), i got rid of all the literature.
i had not renewed my wt subscribtion, and was not getting any other literature in the mail.
so, there was nothing coming in.
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I'm with you Sentinel- I just recently gave my mother a HUGE box of her books back. The ONLY thing I kept was a bible my dad gave me- and signed- then two weeks before he died- I showed up at a meeting- he took my bible- wrote LOVE YA & signed & dated it. Of course I will treasure that- because of his writing in it-but not for the translation, or anything else about it! Speaking of literature- does anyone know if there was something between 1995-1997 in PRINT that said the end would DEFINETLY come before the new millineum? I seem to recall when I was disfellowshipped my mom emailed me that there was an article coming out with that written in it- and my brother had inside info from someone in bethel- or some crap like that. I asked her about it the other day- she said the society has NEVER put in print a time or date of the end, or when it would or would not come- over zealous witnesses might-but not the society. (YEAH RIGHT!) Would love to find out though if it was in print- sometime in the late 90's.
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Double Standards
by Perfection Seeker indid anyone else have witness parents who the congregation thought were the "model" family, yet behind closed doors all hell broke loose?
i remember a time when my family was choosen to do a part at an assembly about the ideal family- yet behind the scenes, we were beat, yelled at, sworn at, never studied, had a family from hell, yet others always commented how "perfect" and christian our family was.
being a witness leaves deep & permanent scars.
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Want to meet halfway? :-) I am in Iowa- what state are you in? I think the double standards & behind closed doors was pretty much a given in the organization. What family could really truly live up to those standards all the time? My brother went to Bethel, he is now an elder, my other brother a servant, my dad was a servant- hard to "respect" them all knowing what I did. Course, I never did respect them :-) My ENTIRE family is at the district convention right now. I feel SO sorry for them- 8 hours- 3 days- I remember sitting there so tired & brain dead- watching the clock- and having it NEVER move- the ONLY thing that kept me awake was the constant clapping. How long were you "in"? I am so glad to be out. My gosh.
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Double Standards
by Perfection Seeker indid anyone else have witness parents who the congregation thought were the "model" family, yet behind closed doors all hell broke loose?
i remember a time when my family was choosen to do a part at an assembly about the ideal family- yet behind the scenes, we were beat, yelled at, sworn at, never studied, had a family from hell, yet others always commented how "perfect" and christian our family was.
being a witness leaves deep & permanent scars.
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Did anyone else have witness parents who the congregation thought were the "Model" family, yet behind closed doors all hell broke loose? I remember a time when my family was choosen to do a part at an assembly about the ideal family- yet behind the scenes, we were beat, yelled at, sworn at, never studied, had a family from hell, yet others always commented how "perfect" and christian our family was. Being a witness leaves deep & permanent scars. This website is like the "plastic surgeon" for me- already starting the healing process, yet enjoying the bitterness that I held in for 28 years!
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Most Embarrasing Witness Moment from Childhood
by Perfection Seeker inanyone on here have a "most embarrasing witness moment" from childhood?
mine is from 7th grade- that was 20 years ago- but i still cringe when i think of it.
almost too hard to write down- but maybe it will be therapeutic & part of the healing process?
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My mom didn't even let me attend the "sex ed" classes- even the first ones that seperated boys & girls- the girls just learded about "periods" and general stuff- I was to be "excused" because it wasn't appropriate! I am still in the BITTER stage- but hope to kick over to the forgive & forget stage- but things like this voting, sex ed- being excused from EVERYTHING! Maybe I will go back to school to be a Ex Witness therapist- looks like there would be PLENTY of clients! :-) Thanks for writing- feeling better already! :-) (I could NEVER have even told the voting for GODS KINGDOM story to my husband- he would NEVER have grasped the depth of it- so nice to get it off my chest!)
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Most Embarrasing Witness Moment from Childhood
by Perfection Seeker inanyone on here have a "most embarrasing witness moment" from childhood?
mine is from 7th grade- that was 20 years ago- but i still cringe when i think of it.
almost too hard to write down- but maybe it will be therapeutic & part of the healing process?
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HI! Anyone on here have a "most embarrasing witness moment" from childhood? Mine is from 7th grade- that was 20 years ago- but I still cringe when I think of it. Almost too hard to write down- but maybe it will be therapeutic & part of the healing process? You can go ahead & laugh- but still to this day I am NOT laughing about it! I was 13- they announced the next day we would be voting for class officers. I went home & asked my mom if it was wrong to vote- she said "VOTE FOR GODS KINGDOM" Well, the next day- voting began- three options 1) Brooke 2) Gregg 3) Other. Well, I put a mark on OTHER & wrote GODS KINGDOM. So, later in the day- the intercom came on- they announced the scores for class officers: Brooke received 73 votes, Gregg received 62 votes, and 1 vote for Gods Kingdom. Part of me died that day. I am cringing just writing this! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE someone post something equal or worst- so I know I was not the only messed up 13 year old!