when i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.
i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.
they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".
That must be common use, I had to do the same thing while presiding a committee to handle the case of a missionary, married, who had no regret, and fornicated. The BC called me the sunday morning at the missionary-home and told me to do everything possible not to disfellowship her as we were gaining such a good name in that town.
Everyone who has dealt with these brothers know you better did what you were told.
i`m just curious about the travel arrangements of the g.b.members when they travel overseas to conventions in europe , africa , australia , etc.. is their any verifiable documents /receipts etc.
that prove they stay in the most up market hotels , or fly first class in planes ?, being treated like v.i.p.`s ?.
no human being is exempt from the temptations of abusing his power or position of authourity , especially when big money is involved , and the g.b.
They stay at branches not in hotels.
like they say in the movies, "follow the money.
" the thought occurred to me the other day - the wt scam rakes in billions of dollars, and yeah some of that goes to operations and equipment.
but bethelites at farm and factory get only a bare little dorm room and a monthly pittance.
Nobody does. You only think of the USA . The branches in the world outside europe, usa, australia cost a lot of money. I have never ever seen someone having benefit from it. They all work hard, the little luxury Some have ( a crappy american or japanese car brand) , come from familiy Or friends.
paragraph 1 & 2:.
we all enjoy life even now due to jehovah's tender mercies, for if it were not for his slowness to anger all humans would not have lived into this 21st century of out common era.
even those crippled severly cling to life thus demonstrating the will of humans to live even in adversity.
I'll tell you, a lot of them will be happy to be back in the field, having their own home and freedom.
just curious.
i would love to spend about 3 hours on a plane discussing things with one of these spiritual giants..
Some of them might need, or needed, medical attention as they are or were very old, but no bodyguards in the sence of have someone who is trained to protect them. Some others take a secretary with them, which makes sense to me.
just curious.
i would love to spend about 3 hours on a plane discussing things with one of these spiritual giants..
No they don't , ridiculous. Stop making them important, they behave like regular people, you meet them in the dining-room, in the library, at the meetings.
if someone asked you for information regarding your identity, would you tell them?
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Nice MG
what would make a man throw away all his earthly riches to expose the cult?
what did ray franz have to gain by leaving in total poverty?
if ray franz had stayed in place, he could have lived like a god, why did he leave?
Yes a year allowance of special pioneering, around 10 k. He writes very suspicious about it, but they offer the same to ex missionaries in europe when they have to leave their missionary assignlent. We were offered 4 months without any requirements of hours, a starter in the real world. No hush dollars at all.
We never know the truth of Franz it all as we don't know the other Side of the medal, do we?
what would make a man throw away all his earthly riches to expose the cult?
what did ray franz have to gain by leaving in total poverty?
if ray franz had stayed in place, he could have lived like a god, why did he leave?
You think, you think....all based on his book, your new bible?
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/confidential-news-from-spain/.
the following email was sent to watchtower documents recently from a witness insider in spain.
congratulations for all the information you have given on the legal framework of the watchtower.. in spain, the watchtower is following the instructions coming from patterson that works exclusively with the law firm baker & mckenzie.
@ newhope etc... I do not have an opinion about wrong or right at this moment , you know things on forehand, when you accept the privilege. I was just pointing out how things are arranged for missionaries and bethelites.
