@Oubliette... I would like to quote but I it's hard on this forum.... You have to make a difference between , sp, co and do, on one Side and missionaris and bethelites on the other. The last two are much more protected, the other...sp, co, do are still supposed to be with one leg in the world.
Posts by fulano
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18Confidential News from Spain from an "Insider"
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://watchtowerdocuments.org/confidential-news-from-spain/.
the following email was sent to watchtower documents recently from a witness insider in spain.
congratulations for all the information you have given on the legal framework of the watchtower.. in spain, the watchtower is following the instructions coming from patterson that works exclusively with the law firm baker & mckenzie.
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Why did Ray Franz leave the Organization? Your Opinion Matters!
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inwhat would make a man throw away all his earthly riches to expose the cult?
what did ray franz have to gain by leaving in total poverty?
if ray franz had stayed in place, he could have lived like a god, why did he leave?
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fulano
Focus, he did the right thing, for sure, imho, but the lifestyle you point out...I don't agree with that. They live in slavery ( I mean the GB), like anyone else. I own two companies here in europe, lot of work, hassle, taxes etc., but I wouldn't change my life for a million euros a year for a year with them.
Get up, scheduled, 12, lunch, 1.00 p.m. at work, being an example, no nice smoke nor drinks with friends friday night....no their life isn't the dream as some think it is. I lived it (Bethel not GB) :):) and found missionary-service freedom.
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Why did Ray Franz leave the Organization? Your Opinion Matters!
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inwhat would make a man throw away all his earthly riches to expose the cult?
what did ray franz have to gain by leaving in total poverty?
if ray franz had stayed in place, he could have lived like a god, why did he leave?
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fulano
He was just fed up with getting up at 6.00 a.m. just as he didn't like going from door to door in Puert Rico, oh yes hè liked to talk to Trujillo in Santo Domingo, and showing off, he is more fake than his former co-members were, maybe smarter, yes.
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Why did Ray Franz leave the Organization? Your Opinion Matters!
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inwhat would make a man throw away all his earthly riches to expose the cult?
what did ray franz have to gain by leaving in total poverty?
if ray franz had stayed in place, he could have lived like a god, why did he leave?
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fulano
What is meant by earthly, and living like a god...I understood, material, glory. Hè would not have had the glory and money if hè would have stayed, don't you think?
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Why did Ray Franz leave the Organization? Your Opinion Matters!
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inwhat would make a man throw away all his earthly riches to expose the cult?
what did ray franz have to gain by leaving in total poverty?
if ray franz had stayed in place, he could have lived like a god, why did he leave?
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fulano
He would have died with less if he , the idol, would have stayed.
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Confidential News from Spain from an "Insider"
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://watchtowerdocuments.org/confidential-news-from-spain/.
the following email was sent to watchtower documents recently from a witness insider in spain.
congratulations for all the information you have given on the legal framework of the watchtower.. in spain, the watchtower is following the instructions coming from patterson that works exclusively with the law firm baker & mckenzie.
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fulano
No it has to do with seniority, nothing with so called importance. 15 years Bethel or missionary, they Will Hardly ask you to leave.
That's according to the missionary book which we had to read and sign every year. And I have seen it in the practice.
Don't say things without knowledge please.
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Why did Ray Franz leave the Organization? Your Opinion Matters!
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inwhat would make a man throw away all his earthly riches to expose the cult?
what did ray franz have to gain by leaving in total poverty?
if ray franz had stayed in place, he could have lived like a god, why did he leave?
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fulano
What do you mean??? He probably would have died with much less when hè would have stayed.
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Why did Ray Franz leave the Organization? Your Opinion Matters!
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inwhat would make a man throw away all his earthly riches to expose the cult?
what did ray franz have to gain by leaving in total poverty?
if ray franz had stayed in place, he could have lived like a god, why did he leave?
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fulano
What would make a man throw away all his earthly riches to expose the Cult? What did Ray Franz have to gain by leaving in total poverty? If Ray Franz had stayed in place, he could have lived like a god, why did he leave? I know it's all speculation but I can't understand why Ray Franz would throw away his god-hood by leaving the Borg. Men like Tony Morriss and Stevie Lett enjoy all the praise and homage given them by uneducated JWs, what made Ray Franz sacrifice his life so we could know the Truth-About-The-Truth?
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One language in the new system
by OneEyedJoe inso at the convention, one of the talks was about how all people will speak a single language in the new system.
my ears perked up when i heard at the outset "now, we can't be dogmatic about this" because that immediately makes me think that they're backing away from a previously dogmatic stance.
he went on to say that everyone will be speaking hebrew in the new system because "evidently" (another word that gets my ears to perk up these days) that was what was spoken before the languages were confused at bable.
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fulano
We Will speak Dutch !
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I am leaving my wife...
by fulano inand i feel sad.
everything happened so fast, 1999 back from patterson, 2000 inactive and no longer an elder, 2001 smoking everything that planet earth offers, and now in love with a girl for a couple of months.
i feel sad but liberated.
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fulano
Thanks for your kind postings! No I am not sad anymore. Happy as one could be, accepting things like not seeing my familie anymore, exept my brother who lives close to me and who also left the org. That sometimes frustrates when you see other families united, but that's how it is.