Posts by botchtowersociety

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DEAR RICH FOLKS: Get Ready For A (Tax) Revolution...

by darthfader in

interesting point of view and graphs.

is the us different today than it was in the 50's and 60's when tax rates were at their highest?

a lot of people agree that raising taxes pulls money out of the economy and will hinder job creation.

botchtowersociety

How do I owe society for my success?

When you start with the wrong concepts you get to the wrong conclusions.

What are debts owed society?

Well, what is society? Can you weigh it? Measure it? Can you even touch it or point at it and say "there it is, look, that is society."

"Society" is in the same category of concepts as "God". And some people worship it as such.

But there is no such thing as society. It is a meaningless word.

All there is, is individuals.

You cannot get wealthy alone, that is true. You must cooperate with other individuals in some way to prosper.

"Society" is gobbledygook. You cannot owe something to such a concept. It is a fiction.

You do not pay society when you pay your workers. You are paying individuals in exchange for a service. They in turn, pay others in other exchanges.

You do not pay society when you pay your taxes. You are paying protection money so that a group of gangsters will not throw you in a dungeon, or shoot you dead for resisting.

Someone tell Warren Buffet's fluffer that it is not "self evident."

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DEAR RICH FOLKS: Get Ready For A (Tax) Revolution...

by darthfader in

interesting point of view and graphs.

is the us different today than it was in the 50's and 60's when tax rates were at their highest?

a lot of people agree that raising taxes pulls money out of the economy and will hinder job creation.

botchtowersociety

(don't forget to remember how many farmers are in the same situation)

It forces the liquidation of the farm in many cases. The big agribusinesses love the death tax. They don't deal with it, since corporations are immortal. They can swoop in and pick up the small farms when the owner dies. This happens in other types of family owned businesses as well.

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DEAR RICH FOLKS: Get Ready For A (Tax) Revolution...

by darthfader in

interesting point of view and graphs.

is the us different today than it was in the 50's and 60's when tax rates were at their highest?

a lot of people agree that raising taxes pulls money out of the economy and will hinder job creation.

botchtowersociety

"Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certainpoint, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise." --Thomas Jefferson to J. Madison, 1785..

Here Jefferson is writing about the feudal holdings of a landed nobility. Hint, it isn't the USA. Context.

"What more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow citizens--a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned."

Berengaria seems to misunderstand this quote. It argues the opposite of her views.

There were no income taxes in Jefferson's day. There were consumption taxes, especially on imported goods. This is a much better tax than an income tax.

Jefferson opposed a tax on persons, which, in effect is what an income tax is.

Spirit of the Laws,

We had a thriving middle class when taxes on the top were 70-90%.

Effective rates on the top have never been 70-90% in this country. Ever. (those may have been the statutory rates, but hardly anyone paid them, including millionaires, the effective rates were close to those paid under Bush or Clinton).

Also, regardless what the marginal rates may have been, the total income tax collected has always hovered around 19% (reference Hauser's rule), so history does not show that higher marginal rates lead to higher collections.

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What would be your reaction if the original ten commandments were found written in hieroglyphic

by Joey Jo-Jo in

according to historians, the hebrew language came at a later date and there is strong evidence to support that the original writtings of moses were destroyed and and was re-writen by ezra.. remember that the account explains that moses became part of the egyption royal family, did he learn the arts of horus and others, the same with aaron, why was aaron quick to make a golden calf?

why did the people wanted to become like gods, and why when moses found out made them drink the golden calf?.

1 when the people saw that moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around aaron and said, come, make us gods[a] who will go before us.

botchtowersociety

What would be your reaction if the original ten commandments were found written in hieroglyphic

Well. Moses did have an Egyptian education, and Egyptian hieroglyphics do predate Hebrew writing, which is based on the Phoenician alphabet.

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Come on people you're just not writing enough checks for Sarah Palin

by designs in

palin's team reported a miserly 1.6 million raised this year compared to romeny with his 18.8 million to date.

michelle bachmann is somewhere in the middle.. is there a recession going on in politics..

botchtowersociety

Palin isn't running (yet and she might not run), so it isn't surprising that she hasn't raised as much as a declared candidate. She has a PAC she uses to fund other candidates.

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Democrat or Republican? Does it matter?

by Wonderment in

election year is approaching.

are we ready for the political campaigns?

for those who vote, does it really matter whether we vote democrat or republican?.

botchtowersociety

I'm pretty much on the Farkle page. 100%. I'd vote for him.

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Chemtrails, Seeing is believing.

by pedal power in

before i begin, i want you to know i understand the difference between chemtrails and contrails, so lets leave those discussions behind, chemtrails exist.. what is the purpose of chemtrails ?

if it was to artificially create clouds, why come to edinburgh ?

for any of you who are unaware, 90% of the time its cloudy and rainy, so creating cloud cover, is a joke.

botchtowersociety

Pedal power no board is complete without its monkey.

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Chemtrails, Seeing is believing.

by pedal power in

before i begin, i want you to know i understand the difference between chemtrails and contrails, so lets leave those discussions behind, chemtrails exist.. what is the purpose of chemtrails ?

if it was to artificially create clouds, why come to edinburgh ?

for any of you who are unaware, 90% of the time its cloudy and rainy, so creating cloud cover, is a joke.

botchtowersociety

You're right... poor grammar:

Bohm is not a native English speaker. He is from somewhere in Europe. Despite this, I find his prose clearer than yours. His logic and sense of humor are definitely superior to your muddled thinking and crude name calling. I doubt you even understand his language.

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Chemtrails, Seeing is believing.

by pedal power in

before i begin, i want you to know i understand the difference between chemtrails and contrails, so lets leave those discussions behind, chemtrails exist.. what is the purpose of chemtrails ?

if it was to artificially create clouds, why come to edinburgh ?

for any of you who are unaware, 90% of the time its cloudy and rainy, so creating cloud cover, is a joke.

botchtowersociety

so the man spend a fortune of his own money vaccinating poor people, and some basement-dwelling asshat compare him to Hitler.

FAIL FAIL FAIL.

Dude. Your comment encapsulates something beyond ordinary written expression. It describes how broken this stupid planet is. And it is HILARIOUS!

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Isaac Newton is an anointed Christian.......

by Slidin Fast in

startfragment.

did anyone else pick up the wild assertions in the dc.

henry grew, george storrs and isaac newton were part of the anointed.

botchtowersociety

Newton's insights into physics have earned him a place in heaven. But his ideas on currency debasement mean that he will spend several centuries in purgatory before he gets there.