Please add me and Carol’s sincere condolences on the loss of Ian - he was truly an inspiration to us all.
Posts by Matty
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251RIP Dansk (aka Ian), 18.12.1953- 20.12.2008
by faundy inhave posted this on the other thread but just making this one as well:
i need to let you know that dad passed away this morning at 8am.
he fought so hard but in the end they could not get his blood pressure to rise and he died of heart failure.
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Dansk
by faundy injust to let everyone on here who knows my dad, that he is seriously ill, and unfortunately on life support.
he has renal and respiratory failure as a result of the quickest onset of pneumonia i have ever seen... it came on in the early hours of this morning.
he is waiting for an intensive care bed but the nearest one is 200 miles away.
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Matty
I am so sad to hear the news on Ian - please get well again soon! All our love and best wishes go to Ian and Claire and the family, we think about you often and hope to see you all again soon.
Carol & Matt
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Is Staying At JWD Like Being On The Titanic To YOU?
by minimus ini've heard that reference.
obviously, i'm staying with the ship.. signed.
captain minimus.
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Sites to consider for post JWD discussion and information, please revise!
by insearchoftruth inex-jehovah's witness forum and recovery site.
jehovahs witness support forum.
shelter forum.
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Matty
This is the list on Randy's site: http://www.exjws.net/meetpeople/boards.htm. It's a bit out of date at the moment but has most of the main forums out there listed.
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New arrangement for field service?
by Zico ini don't know if this is a worldwide thing because i didn't go the meeting where the arrangement was announced, but it's being done in my congregation anyway.
during those 6 months the member assigned to the pioneer is meant to make time to work with the pioneer as much as possible, so they can strengthen each other.
the idea is meant to be that eventually each member of the congregation will get a go.
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Matty
The Pioneer Assist Program is a loving provision from Jehovah. It was created to build up a congregation's spirituality and unity and zeal for the ministry. Apparently.
The basic deal is that the body of Elders meet together and discuss the congregations publishers and build up a list of all the ones in the congregation they personally see as "weak" in particular aspects of the ministry. It generally would mean ones that have very low hours, or ones who are irregular. Special emphasis is usually given to the teens in the congregation. I have never personally seen any elderly ones on this scheme. Anyway, they then match these "weak" ones up to exemplary pioneers within the congregation so that these ones can be assisted to reach out for greater privileges of service.
Remember the Body of Elders actually decide who amongst the brothers and sisters within their flock are picked, it certainly isn't a voluntary exercise. The Elders could make an announcement at the Service Meeting and say something like "The pioneers are always there to help the other publishers in the congregation, just approach one if you need assistance and they will be more than happy to help you in whatever aspect of the ministry you need that help in" No, they have their eyes on particular ones they see as needing that encouragement.
The first thing that the poor nominated publisher knows about being "in the scheme" is that they get an Elder and a Pioneer approach them before or after a meeting. The Elder says that they have been chosen to partake in the Pioneer Assist scheme, but they don't have to go through with it if they don't want to of course... All this while the Pioneer stares at the poor little publisher. No pressure there, of course.
The Kingdom Ministry says that you are encouraged to accept this help humbly and respectfully and in the spirit it is given. So, what if you refuse to accept this loving provision? What if you are shy and don't like going out on the ministry with people you don't know that well? Well, if you refuse you get labelled, that's what happens! You're card is marked by the Elders as one being "unwilling to take direction".
In the weeks that ensue the other brothers and sisters find out who are in the scheme, it's not difficult. It's a bit like when you find out when a brother and sister are dating, you see them together all the time. The spotlight is firmly on the chosen brother or sister, everybody can plainly see that this one is was thought of as a spiritual weakling by the Body of Elders, and basically needs grabbing by the scruff of the neck in order to go out on the ministry. You may think that's degrading and humiliating, but we are talking about a loving provision here, so everyone looks on and smiles and is very nice. However in their minds they are going "HAAA HAAA!" Just like Nelson in the Simpsons!
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O% Containment of Fires in SoCal
by purplesofa ini don't think this is a hoax.. i have been watching this am the wildfires in socal.
they have already lost some beautiful buildings.
it does not look like things will let up soon.. i was in malibu a few yeares ago, horrible to see.. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303799,00.html.
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Matty
Thanks and hugs Happy Harvester/purplesofa. We just spoke to caligirl, they are with friends out of the evacuation area at the moment and safe. Fortunately the San Marcos fire has been contained, so they may be heading back soon.
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O% Containment of Fires in SoCal
by purplesofa ini don't think this is a hoax.. i have been watching this am the wildfires in socal.
they have already lost some beautiful buildings.
it does not look like things will let up soon.. i was in malibu a few yeares ago, horrible to see.. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303799,00.html.
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Matty
Double that evacuation number now. We're looking at the worst wildfires in Californian history. Me and SpiceItUp are home - both our workplaces are in the mandatory evacuation area. We are just out of the evacuation areas but things are changing by the minute, so we are at home and keeping up to date with the news. We're ready to go if we're called to.
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Yes, North San Diego.
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Norway
by InquiryMan inin norway, the ombudsman of children s welfare intervened and a lot of fuss were made when it was made clear that jws endorsed corporal punishment in their publications even though it was banned by law.
it was even mentioned in the national news.
the coordinator was even interviewed on tv and the day after it was proven from the wt indexes that he had been lying.... i remember it was very embarrassing.
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Matty
Does shopping at IKEA count??
Tut Tut - no it certainly doesn't, IKEA is a Swedish, not a Norwegian company!
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For all nature lovers make sure and watch the Discovery Channel tonight!
by restrangled in8:00pm eastern standard time....this program looks incredible, it took several years to film and the episodes will run over 4 weeks as far as i know.. enjoy.. r..
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Apparently it has been edited from the original - dumbed-down for US audiences - the narration has been redone by Sigourney Weaver instead of David Attenborough, as was on the original version. Jeez! Well, if it gets people watching it that would normally give it a miss then I suppose it's worth it.
