While I was reading your post, the point you were making, and the parallels, gradually dawned on me. It was a real clout to my system. Following on from it, I wonder how many of Hanratty’s supporters had doubts during their campaign creeping in their mind that they afterward dismissed as "disloyalty"!?
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by Duncan inuks channel 4 ran a very interesting documentary last night: hanratty - the whole truth for those of you who have never heard of james hanratty, heres a brief recap:.
in august 1961 there was an extremely notorious murder committed near the town of bedford in the uk.
in what came to be called the a6 murder, after the highway it took place on, an assailant attacked a man and his girlfriend in their car.
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CO talk
by Fatal Error inwe had our second co talk yesterday, the topic of which was loyalty, thinly veiled as to one another, but dripping with threats toward those who might go against the society.. after the usual drivel about the society being god's organisation, and appreciating their junk food (as an aside, has anyone actually vomitted up any of this "food"??
just wondering...), i was rudely dragged out of my slumber by the co's harsh declaration that we should shun all those who slipped away from the thruth, as they inactivity is a bad influence.
he went on to heap the blame on them, "if they feel this way, then they should expect their due", "they bring shunning onto themselves" etc.... has it always been this way?
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Mister Biggs, well, I'm still active too unfortunately! Is this familiar to you: We seem to have waves of hard-line and soft-line from the Org. Its a bit like the two policemen interrogating the suspect, one nice, one nasty - taking turns to speak. I remember during the mid 80's the FDS had a very hard-line approach. The talks at conventions were very condemnatory and threatening - real "hellfire & brimstone" stuff. People were alarmed into action: hours, studies, placements, shot up. In the 90's things got very relaxed. Did you get the impression that elders were told to be more hands-off with the congregation? Recently though, I get the impression that with the decrease in publishers, hours & studies we are approaching another radical period. Our last CO visit left me with a similar impression to Fatalerror. Handing in your FSR to the book study conductor rather than popping it into the box. The "pioneer-assist" scheme. Hmm…
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Important: The Nocebo Effect
by metatron incan a person make themselves sick by their beliefs?.
this is called the "nocebo" effect and it's getting some critical.
attention by researchers.. www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/a2709-2002apr29.html.
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Matty
Yes that is spot on. How many witnesses do you know with ME (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis - whoa - AKA Chronic Fatigue Syndrome)? It seems like an epidemic.
Its become a standing joke amongst the brothers and sisters that ME stands for "Ministry Exempt" in that those with the condition are allowed to be inactive but aren't pestered by Elders about it.
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What is your favorite toothpaste?
by butalbee ini personally recommend listerine essential care tartar control formula, it is clinically proven to prevent and reduced plaque, gingivitis, and bad breathe.
and the minty taste is very nice.
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Matty
"You'll wonder where the yellow went when you brush your teeth with PEPSODENT!"
Why are we discussing toothpaste? Could this possibly be another secret code word leading to a new light?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=26584&site=3#339327
I brush my teeth with this stuff called "KY", it doesn't have much flavour, but my mum seems to use it a lot.
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WANTING to Believe in God
by dobby inhas anyone had this experience?.
after letting go of my beliefs as a jw, i felt the only alternative was to be atheist.
or maybe it is just logical to there is no god when i am only listening to my mind and not my heart.
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The only God we know is the God of the WT society. It's difficult for me to think of God out of the context of the religion I was born in - do you identify with that? Do you see him as just a incredibly big circuit overseer?
I identify with your dilemma dobby. I would like to believe in a loving God, but the biggest problem I have that stops me believing in God is the credibility of the bible. The God of the bible seems so mean and inconsistent sometimes. If the bible really is the word of God, why are some parts of it so asinine? Surely it should be the best written novel in the world!
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UK posters .......regards to...David Algar
by qwerty ina friend sent me this............ for some reason i am having difficulty posting to the web site.
but i. have something to say about brother david algar.
weeks age at our circuit assembly (in scotland where he is now the do).
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Matty
I could never figure out how David Algar managed to get to such a senior position - he's actually a nice person, not a grumpy old git! And shock horror - he actually makes assemblies entertaining and worth going to - extraordinary!
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This is good for a laugh
by JeffT inas the woman passed her daughter's closed bedroom door, she heard a .
strange buzzing noise coming from within.
opening the door, she observed her daughter giving herself a real .
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Matty
LMAO
I've never heard that one before... Thanks!!!!
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Witnessing Door-to-Door
by ozziepost intoday's christianity today carries this article about the familiar "house to house".
christianity today, week of april 22. do evangelicals still go door-to-door?.
successful evangelism strategies have added new components to the traditional model of home visitation.. by todd hertz | posted 04/24/2002.
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bchapp, and do you know what, its amazing when you hear JWs in casual conversation saying how annoying double glazing/kitchen salesmen are when they ring or call.
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What do the Catholics & JWs have in common?
by Jankyn inwhile discussing the current state of affairs re: pedophilia in the catholic church with a friend, i started talking about the same situation within the jws.
she asked me, what do the two have in common that makes it possible for molestations to be covered up and denied?
in short, what do they have in common that has allowed them to get away with it for so long?.
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“Catholic Guilt” is a phrase that we come across quite a bit; and that constant feeling is a common feature of people in the JW religion too.
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Jephthah's Promise - Oh yeah?
by Matty inoccasionally i will vent my spleen about various bible characters i dont like.
i hope i dont bore all of you who would rather talk about limp bizkit or the size of your willies.. all my life i have had to put up with these seriously flawed individuals being described as marvellous examples to all jws.
ive already had a moan about david, now its jephthahs turn.
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I could never work that out either, yes the burnt offering was indeed promised - charming! But it seems that a concession was made - what a lucky girl. Who says that God isn't your flexible friend?