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  JW Child Abuse: An Insider's Insight

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i post the following at the request of barbara anderson.. .

  as a result of the newspaper report calling attention to my actions i feel compelled to provide further information that has come to light and deserves full exposure.. the society is very much aware of my intentions, because of a private e-mail i innocently wrote someone was forwarded to the society without my permission.

  you can read it in its entirety, below.

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  AlanF has calculated the rate of growth of the rate of growth of the organization. I don't want to get off on a tangent, but that's a very chilling fact that cannot be ignored. They are in trouble to begin with.

  Balance that, however, with the enormous amount of property owned by the Society all over the globe and its sheer organizational mass.

  When I say the Society will not fold up its tents, I mean just that. That's not pessimism, it's reality. So what if the average dub is not affected by Dateline? Wait till they have a tough time going from door to door because of the pedophile issue, changed policy or not. Wait till they understand what enforced shunning is. What's going to happen to the Society's market?

  Wait till lawsuits keep bleeding the organization and more money is needed.

  Already countless traveling overseers and elders who "know" have been deeply affected of late. They KNOW the KM article on cutting back job activity is pure nonsense. They KNOW something is drastically wrong.

  I'll just stop there.

  What I'm saying is, don't let black-and-white thought processes continue to drive the conclusion. It's not just about a TV program or about lawsuits.

  Max
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  Canadian TV Note: Pedophile Coverup, Murder

  by Maximus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been given some sketchy information that says the cbc is presenting its program straight talk tonight, possibly 7 pm eastern time.. in that program james kostelniuk's book and personal story will be covered.. "sheep among wolves," the story of murder in a jehovah's witness community.

  perhaps someone in canada could check this out and publish details below, or correct this

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  : Could we get that detailed of coverage?

  Yes.

  Max
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  Canadian TV Note: Pedophile Coverup, Murder

  by Maximus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been given some sketchy information that says the cbc is presenting its program straight talk tonight, possibly 7 pm eastern time.. in that program james kostelniuk's book and personal story will be covered.. "sheep among wolves," the story of murder in a jehovah's witness community.

  perhaps someone in canada could check this out and publish details below, or correct this

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  CBC Channel 511 will carry it in 45 minutes, for the second time 3 PM in British Columbia. HOT TYPE CBC News World

  Want to post this, then more details.

  Channel 390 will carry it one more time.

  15,000 more copies of Kostelniuk's book were printed to prepare for the interest generated by this show.

  FREE COPY OF TAPE.

  CALL ANDREW JOHNSON 416-205-2436 EXT 8891 (Monday and thereafter.)

  Thanks to some new-found Canadian JW friends who were deeply moved by
  the Barbara Anderson thread.

  Max
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  Thank You Ray Franz.

  by Martini in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello friends,.

  in a thread over at witnesses.net entitled "society bracing for law suits" fellow jw's are taking swipes at ray franz.

  not too long ago, while i was still under the wt spell i also would have similarily spoken abusively of ray.

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  Wasasister,

  Ray Franz won't be reading this site. Write him.

  The mob here can turn on a dime, and often does. You can and will get attacked for raising an eyebrow --- that the reader can't even see!

  Jim Penton has no stomach for the board either. I understand that fully.

  No lectures in response, please.

  Max
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  Canadian TV Note: Pedophile Coverup, Murder

  by Maximus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been given some sketchy information that says the cbc is presenting its program straight talk tonight, possibly 7 pm eastern time.. in that program james kostelniuk's book and personal story will be covered.. "sheep among wolves," the story of murder in a jehovah's witness community.

  perhaps someone in canada could check this out and publish details below, or correct this

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  I've been given some sketchy information that says the CBC is presenting its program Straight Talk tonight, possibly 7 PM Eastern Time.

  In that program James Kostelniuk's book and personal story will be covered.

  "Sheep Among Wolves," the story of murder in a Jehovah's Witness community

  Perhaps someone in Canada could check this out and publish details below, or correct this
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  WHAT/WHERE DO WE WRITE LETTERS TO NEWS & WT??

  by waiting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how - what - to whom - & where can addresses be found for various newspapers & wtbts?

  ok, this has been pointedly mentioned by barbara anderson, maximus, larc - and actually done by zazuwitts - and others fine people here.

  i've asked this before, and so have others (thankfully so i don't feel like the only simple one).

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  No need to feign anything; keep it natural.

  They do know about Dateline; believe me. Again, if it feels good to say it, do it.

  Max
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  How Would You Respond?

  by silentlambs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this is kind of like shooting fish in a barrel, but i just have to share this email i got a few minutes ago.

  i think it encapsulates the response many will have, no matter what is said about the molestation issue.

  i invite you read it, put yourself in my shoes, and see how you might offer a response.

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  Stephanus, if you are in touch with Ozziepost, tell him to check his mail. I'd like to borrow his leather jacket and other unmentionable gear.

  Max
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  WHAT/WHERE DO WE WRITE LETTERS TO NEWS & WT??

  by waiting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how - what - to whom - & where can addresses be found for various newspapers & wtbts?

  ok, this has been pointedly mentioned by barbara anderson, maximus, larc - and actually done by zazuwitts - and others fine people here.

  i've asked this before, and so have others (thankfully so i don't feel like the only simple one).

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  No screaming epithets, Tina? Thought folks wuz a-gittin' practice here on the bord.

  Let me make one HUGE suggestion.

  Instead of saying something like "disfellowshipping (excommunication)"
  why not be very clear when writing to the media,

  "disfellowshipping (enforced shunning by family and friends)"

  because excommunication may connote just not being able to partake of the Eucharist until the following Easter, when an individual can be reconciled to the Church in the Rite of a Penitent. Use ENFORCED, folks.

  It ain't a matter of choice, you are forced to shun DF/DA or you will surely be shunned yourself. Right?

  Max
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  JW Child Abuse: An Insider's Insight

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i post the following at the request of barbara anderson.. .

  as a result of the newspaper report calling attention to my actions i feel compelled to provide further information that has come to light and deserves full exposure.. the society is very much aware of my intentions, because of a private e-mail i innocently wrote someone was forwarded to the society without my permission.

  you can read it in its entirety, below.

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  Lauralisa, glad you are okay. Now you know for sure I took you very seriously. Keep in touch!

  : Are you still connected in some way to the society? I can tell you were once in a leadership role yourself. Did you leave because of your conscience? If so, are there more like you?

  I'd prefer not to put too fine a point on this, although my background has been made reasonably clear on the board. If you ask if there are more like me who are moved by conscience to take some risks and willing to press for change, the answer is a resounding Yes.

  My anonymity springs from a desire not to see loved ones further punished for my opinions and deeds; unfortunately that's the way it works in the organization. An awful commentary on Christian freedom, isn't it?

  As to another question, the Watchtower is not going to fold its tents and disappear, but there will be changes. The child abuse policy is being "adjusted," and I suspect the rank and file will be made to think this is all a tempest in a teapot, that the policy has always been the same.

  C'mon, Farkel, it's the fun part now, time to enjoy the fruits of long labor. Waiting, it's hard for you to think that a mere woman can effectively tweak a robust male--but you sure can now. Give the kid a break; how can you resist that flattering picture?

  Max
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  Blanket Bomb Or Snipe?

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wish to open a thread on a bit of a controversial issue so belt-on the self control!

  my question?

  why do some of us attack jws as people and who are our real targets?.

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  I dunno, Hillary.

  I spouted Shakespeare previously but that was for this board.

  Right now I'm thinking of obtuse ones in Brooklyn,
  and I'm pondering:

  ......... stiletto or bludgeon .........

  Blessings on you for lifting the dialogue--and our spirits.

  Max