some here like to perpetuate the idea that there is a hidden group lurking in the shadows playing democrats and republicans against each other for their own benefit... or that a new world order is about to annihilate herds of common men to stay in power.. please name one specific living person who is a member of this elite group..
bohm, you are nothing more than a self-righteous cream puff!!! Everything has to be YOUR way! PS and I have provided enough info for others to do their own research, what have you provided on this subject besides being self-righteous? You have NO clue what it is be an ironworker, none whatsoever!
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the standard of what is true is what is real.. truth=reality.
at the point of contradiction.. with what?
it would be unthinkable for reality to contradict itself.. .
Terry, what happened to 'common sense'? Many people are intellectual but do not have common sense. Where does common sense fit in? Why the neglect of common sense?
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some here like to perpetuate the idea that there is a hidden group lurking in the shadows playing democrats and republicans against each other for their own benefit... or that a new world order is about to annihilate herds of common men to stay in power.. please name one specific living person who is a member of this elite group..
We're back to this topic again PSon? As I said, NOTHING will change the minds of those who will not accept that the WTC was a planned attack, NOTHING! You have provided reputable names and what have they provided? SAVING FACE!! In addition they resort to name calling, a sign of immature pesronality. Amazing how they can quote from engineers etc, as their proof, and yet not one of these objectors are IRONWORKERS, so they rely on engineers (who also not ironworkers) that will support their claim!
PS, on the net, type in, 'Pictures of the Structural Core of the WTC.' Check out, 'The WTC Cores As Seen In Construction Photo's.' Also, 'View-911 Research-the Core Structures, and the Big Fema Lie.' What's my point? The THICKNESS of the inner core. Aside from the inner core you have the outside structural core. These non-ironworkers would have me believe that a plane can MELT THICK CORE structural steel floor to floor even to the basement level and make this building collapse as though it was NOT a planned demolition! Sizemak once said, "the buildings all fell as a result of the intial aircraft impacts." If single plane caused this type of horrific damage, it is totally awesome. PS, when it comes to SAVING FACE, everything and anything will suffice to explain their PLANNED view, it's a great DISTRACTION!They are NOT ironworkers.
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i was shocked to read in the "witnesses only" study watchtower this stupid rutherford policy was still in place, compare.. rutherfords last book "children" {ironic title} 1942 - page 281 "wait until after armagedon to bring children into the world...it is only afew years...until armagedon...those with infants will have greater woe...it will be a far greater difficulty to care for them during the tribulation...".
so if you were 20 years old in 1942 and waited......till 2011.....do the math.. wachtower 2008 april 15 p.19 "heading: "single and childless for a noble purpose.
" ...numerous couples have decided to remain childless...to remain free to serve jehovah...putting kingdom interests above some of the privledges that go with marriage...jehovah will not forget...there will be a great tribulation...it will be a difficult time for us adults and children alike...".
Hmmmm, but it's OK for folks like Rutherford to be born and the hell with others! That makes plenty of sense. The only tribulation women will experience is birth pains. Just rattling off.
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one of the many questions that i am asked is what are the current gb members like, who are the hardliners and who are more moderate.. because of my previous job, at a european bethel, i had dealings with most of them with the exception of sam herd.. these are my observations of my conversations with them and how others who had dealings with them.. other ex bethelites may have contrary views to mine, but i would be surprised.. i had spent a lot of time with splane, lett and morris.
hardliners.
david splane, without doubt the one who commands the most respect and attention.
JWFreak, Thanks for the info. My question to you is this, since you've read the scriptures, how many loyal men in powerful positions didn't abuse it? I've met and seen school janitors let their jobs go to their head, imagine those who are in higher positions?
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Aguest, many thanks for your understanding.
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pay attention to what you are told and how you are told it.. what is the actual message being communicated?
what is the intention behind it?.
this 128-page book millions now living will never die, was placed with the people on a contribution of 25c a copy.. .
Terry,
Outlaw's comment hits the nail on the head. "...they know their working for the dead." Terry, you like to do research, if memory serves me right, I read somewhere that Russell' death wasn't a 'natural' death. I believe he was travelling on a train when he died. If this was so, maybe it was time for Rusell to be replaced at the time. When Rutherford took over, he eliminated many of Rusell's constituants. Rutherford was an attorney, at what level, I don't know.
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Aguest, must your topic and replies be so lengthy? I enjoy reading other posts, your's is to lengthy to read, there are others on this forum. I'm not being critical, just suggesting a suggestion.
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i have just joined this discussion board.
i have been reading it for some time and have been enjoying the insightful posts here.
i grew up in the organization and had been very active.
Greetings, make the most of your stay.
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woke up next to my wonderful wife after getting up she make me a great breakfast and for dinner tonight grilled steak and a brithday cake she made.
so why am i depressed?
could it be my children will not call me today to wish me a happy brithday.
T-A, you've gotten many good reply's, enjoy them, especially Mouthy's.
HB and many more.
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