I can't recall when, but I remember a WT article mocking some church, probably Catholic, down in the Caribbean area that had turnstiles that accepted quarters. If you wanted to get in, you had to have the money. Now they have credit card arrangements? Very crass and hypocritical.
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Anyone in Napa area know if this guy is still a JW?
by BONEZZ inhttp://www.deldottovineyards.com/.
his name is dave del dotto.
he made a ton of $$ in the '90's selling how to get rich in real estate courses.
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mcsemike
Why are so many JW's scammers? EVERY scam I've seen people get into were with JW's, usually elders. I guess the WT's ethics rub off on many people who obey those idiots.
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What Beliefs/ Practices of Jehovah's Witnesses do you Disagree With Most?
by flipper inmost of us either when exiting the witnesses or after exiting have certain beliefs/practices that bothered us so much we could not suport this organization anymore.
what were your breaking points ?
here were a few of mine :.
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mcsemike
There are too many to count and still consider this to be a "religion". I don't know who's more dangerous: Nazis, Muslim terrorists, or the WT. They all need to go. But obviously for me it's the child abuse issue.
Glad Jaracz is dead. Funny, the Earth wasn't left to anyone when his will was read. I guess he really didn't own it like he thought. Too bad, sucker. If you're in heaven, make something of it. NO????? Gee, guess not. May you rot in hell.
Hi Mr. Flipper and LongHairGal. My mail hasn't opened in months so I can't read what you send. I keep getting an error message. Hope all of you are doing well.
Bill Bowen from Silent Lambs broke his leg several weeks ago and most know Ray Franz died. Good men.
My best to all. The East Coast Apostate.
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question for Bane
by isaacaustin inbane claims that he is using the authority given him by the bible by coming here.
for instance, he has claimed the following:.
"i haven t acted in any way that the bible doesn t give me power to.
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mcsemike
All JW's are ignorant in general but are especially so if they post here defending their cult. To all JW lurkers: First, your "god", the GB (who by the way are the most evil, arrogant and stupid group of perverts I've ever met, and I have met many personally in NYC) consider themselves as "gods" equal to Jesus. And occasionally above Jesus. They even decide what Jehovah said and/or means when they "explain" Bible verses. JW's are so arrogant they believe that those who are not JW's cannot think at all. Never mind that we have college degrees and usually far higher IQ's. And to clarify one point: Many JW's have claimed they would do well in college if it were allowed. NO, you would NOT. Most of you would flunk out. Your reasoning abilities shown at the door, your publications, the logic you accept from the idiots who write your garbage, all show an inferior IQ along with disturbing occurrences of mental illness. And yes, I have the right to say this, I have a degree in Psychology.
NO ONE in the Bible told you to "police" any forums and fight "apostasy". You want to follow Jesus? Then do real miracles and die on a cross. Not a stake, a cross. Not willing?? Then shut the hell up about following your "lord". I've heard that crap for 30 years and it doesn't wash. Jesus never intended for any human to follow everything he did. Can you fly? Walk on water?
And the word "apostate". I'm sick to death of this. Find a dictionary IF you know what it is. Apostates are people who leave their first or given beliefs. It can be religion or politics. Actually, since most JW's used to belong to other religions, YOU ARE APOSTATES. That's right. YOU. We who have left your sick cult are only doing what the Bible teaches about having a clean conscience. Your cult protects and defends pedophiles. You lie in court after swearing on the Bible, a book you know nothing about. YOU are the hypocrites and vipers Jesus mentioned.
Every JW who reads these forums or posts here is a hypocrite. As suggested above, leave your real names and addresses. We'll see that your elders get this info and take action. I don't think many of you are that brave or sure that you're supposed to be here. Any takers? Cowards. All of you.
"So there." Oohhhh, you ARE tough. You haven't defeated ANY idea here. You twist verses for your own use. We won't go away and you can't make us. Neither can your sick "god", the GB. If there is a real god, he doesn't use YOU to teach his word. There's a quote that applies to you and all JW's:
"Born free, live stupid, die stupid." Too bad you made the wrong choice.
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Weird Prayer at Last Year's DC - GB Worship
by LostGeneration inat the last dc i will ever attend in 09' some elder was called up to do the morning prayer.
i dont recall him being introduced as a co or anything thats why i say elder.. he starts off slowly and 20 seconds in i realize this is his moment of glory, giving a prayer at the dc and he is going to take his sweet time.
i know the closing prayers are like at least 5 or 10 minutes, but this guy is going to kick off the morning with a long rambling diatribe..... so part way in he gets to the "slave" and he starts naming them off one by one.....ya know thanks for splane, pierce, barr, loesch....so on and so on....til he gets through them all.
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So many men worship local elders so they get appointed as an MS or elder some day. But naming the GB one by one in a public prayer?? This takes ass-kissing to a new level. I used to say certain things were "firsts" or they surprised me, but I don't know now that anything these idiots do would make me surprised. A small and mentally ill group of people who have destroyed, bothered, and affected the lives of too many people and they just will not go away. I saw a post earlier concerning their pathetic retention rate, especially their children not staying JW's when they grow up. Hopefully they will die off in a generation or two. That would be ironic. All of us ex-JW's finally seeing the definition of a "generation" being the 30 to 50 years that they have left before there isn't one person on earth who is willing to talk to them at the door.
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Watchtower Legal Dept.
by Think About It inare all wt lawyers jw's?
do they get paid high salaries because of being lawyers?
does the wts recruit young smart jw's to become wt lawyers?.
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mcsemike
Isn't "smart JW" an oxymoron? As all JW's are anyway?
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Theodore Jaracz of the Governing Body died this morning
by Altar ego inbro.
jaracz died this morning, wednesday, june 9, 2010 at about 7:30 am.
he was 84 years old.
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mcsemike
First, Hi to Mary and Long Haired Gal: I clicked on my email and see I got something and the next screen blew up. Anyway.
YO, JW lurkers and sympathizers. We're not perfect, okay?? Yet the JW's claim to be. Yeah, they say they're not but they think they are. Jaracz was a weasel and a skunk. If I knew HALF the stuff he had done to keep pedophiles as elders, I'd have killed him myself 30 years ago. I lost a marriage due to a brain-dead cult-supporting wife who refused to quit the WT after our 9 year old daughter was raped and molested till she was 13. And the local elders and the the pedophile's wife KNEW he was doing it. YES, I have proof. I have a degree in Psychology and I know how people think. JW's are mentally ill, period.
We are hateful? How many thousands of children have been sexually abused because of the WT? How many dozens have committed suicide because their own parents threw them out for reporting being raped (often by the father or an elder)?? Are you JW's god damn idiots??
I lost my marriage, my daughter, and my mother died because of this. I won't say how, but it wasn't how most people die when they get old. She couldn't take the pain in my daughter's eyes anymore. Nor in mine. I'm Sicilian and I've made it plain for 10 years here on this forum that I'll get my revenge. I'm taking the WT down if I spend my fortune, my life and use every contact I have in the Northeast.
I have been threatened by JW's with harm. Now who's the Christian?? Just try it. We have the right to defend ourselves in Florida, and whoever tries better check the laws first.
I don't believe in god anymore, so I'm not obligated to love anyone, especially that piece of manure Jaracz. He's lucky he died before I found out how much he really did. And if those jerks he trained continue to push his agenda, they will join him much sooner than they planned to.
Now if you JW apologists don't like it, then why don't you try and do something about it? Here in Florida they give pedophiles life in prison for one offense. I wonder how the WT would like it if I showed the local media the "murder letter" sent to elders here in Florida telling them NOT to report a known murderer in the congregation but because he smoked pot, they had to do a committee on him. Are you god damn JW's insane??
We already have MANY towns that won't allow JW's to go door to door. We just call up and tell them pedophiles are allowed to go out and knock on doors. The cops show up, throw them out, and that's it. I go up and down the road warning neighbors and they warn their friends. It won't take long before this gets on the media and all Florida knows about the WT perverts.
I hope Jaracz rots in hell. If he thinks he's in heaven, he's full of what he's been preaching all his life. And if there is a god and he approves of Jaracz, then that god is insane, deranged, and mentally ill. I fear no god, no devil, no power on earth. I speak it like it is. If ANYONE, even some "god" doesn't like it, that's tough. Do something about it. I'm waiting.
Mr. Flipper, how have you been? Is that oil spill heading your way? Keep in touch. M.A.N. from Silent Lambs
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Most people who are not JW's live with out moral restrain! All who have left the "Truth" regret it. June 15th WT
by life is to short inin the june 15th wt it says on page 9 i will just write it out as it is to hard and unbelievable to preface this.
so here it is.. "many who today are members of the christian congregation can tell you that before learning of and adopting jehovah's righteous standards, they lived without moral restrain.
yet, they were unsatisfied and unhappy.
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For every single person the WT finds who tells this big story of regret and misery because they left the WT, I can find 10,000 who are happy they left. "Without moral restraint"??? What the hell do you call hiding pedophiles? Do they expect a Boy Scout merit badge from Jesus for that?? Lying to the public, lying in court, kidnapping children, lying about their history, the list goes on and on.
I'm so tired of hearing what "garbage" those of us who left are being called. We tell the TRUTH, the REAL truth. For that, we get slandered. Even when the media and courts find absolute proof the WT broke the law, they turn around and say that "Satan controls the world, they are lying". I have a degree in psychology and if I had only clients who were in need of therapy because they were JW's or wanted to leave but had problems, I would be able to work 80 hours per week. Rev. warns about liars. It's time the WT took it's own medicine. Even if they don't, someday they will have it forced on them.
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New BOE letter Jan 2010
by JWFreak inparagraphs 6-8 of this letter contain further direction on the use of min-.
in congregations that have very few elders, capable ministerial servants who have dem-.
or more members of the service committee are ministerial servants, the circuit overseer will dis-.
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mcsemike
Actually, sisters were used extensively 40 years ago, especially in rural areas. Many smaller congregations had very few men at all, much less servants. Sisters did the accounts, and "manned" the literature/magazine counter. There were the usual articles on occasion about how they were under the "headship" of some male, even if it was the CO who visited a few times a year. In reality some of the sisters knew more about how to run the congregation than any male did. Which isn't difficult to believe.
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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mcsemike
If people stay in the WT now, they are god damn idiots. There is a limit to how much stupidity people should be allowed to display. What's to stop them from doing a second "overlap" when it's 2060 or so?
The Awake or WT mag will have a picture of Franz posing with a baby born in 1990. Then Franz dies and the baby becomes 80 years old. Then that baby poses with a newborn in 2070 and then dies. This pattern can be used for 5,000 years. And although we won't be here to see it, I bet the yet unborn GB will consider it carefully.
If you WT lurkers remain in this baby-raping cult, you will burn for it. You already will die for the child abuse. Now you can die for being "liars" which Revelation clearly states will die during God's judgment.