Posts by Chariklo

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ARE YOU READY FOR THE FINISH LINE? GB Talk

by Girlie in

and then, immediately after babylon the great is destroyed, almost without a break, look at matt 24 :29 -immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.. now in what sense will the sun be destroyed and the moon not give its light?

are you ready for that?.

and you'll fall across the finish line into the new world !

Chariklo

So new, so shiny new to all things JW, I was almost bowled over the first time a DO said to me "God's chariot is picking up speed."It sounded to full of suspense, so exciting! I couldn't wait to be there when God's chariot finally got to ....where?...I was too in awe of a DO to even think of that question!

But, God's chariot! Wow! Just that whiff of Indiana Jones and the Lost Crusade combined with all those angels the dear sister kept telling me where applauding my "courageous stand".

When I eventually wised up, I saw it all for the ridiculous sham it is. Jargon words, cult words, to enthrall the unwary, who, just for a few months, included me.

But I got over it!

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i think i found a church

by unstopableravens in

i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.

it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!

they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).

Chariklo

Good churches are more than once a week preaching machines.

Yes, they are.

Fault can always be found with individuals, whether people or groups. But the fact remains that, unlike JW's whose charity extends to their own (even though they would no doubt argue that they are doing good to others by preaching the "Kingdom" to them ) many other Christian bodies do a great deal to help ordinary people.

Economic times are hard. Where I live, all the churches in the town combine to stock and man a Food Bank for those who are poor and in need, which these days is a lot of people who have never before found themselves unable to buy the food they and their children need.

Can't be bad.

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OATMEAL

by compound complex in

jw
friends

i wanted eggs for breakfast when i was a kid, but we were poor.

bobby, my little brother, got an egg once a week for breakfast and sis and i got oatmeal.

oatmeal everyday with blue powdered milk.

Chariklo

You had me hooked, totally, CoCo! I was hanging on every word, and then repeatedly, with each new revelation, doing a double-take.

Very nicely done!

Have you ever thought of publishing a book? Seriously, I predict an instant bestseller!

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i think i found a church

by unstopableravens in

i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.

it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!

they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).

Chariklo

Here in Pittsburgh we turn all of our churches into bars and breweries.

That's the best thing that could possibly be done with them.

Just in your view, EP.

The only person we each can speak for is our own self, unless otherwise appointed.

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OATMEAL

by compound complex in

jw
friends

i wanted eggs for breakfast when i was a kid, but we were poor.

bobby, my little brother, got an egg once a week for breakfast and sis and i got oatmeal.

oatmeal everyday with blue powdered milk.

Chariklo

She always had a look in her eye and a smile for Bobby that she never had for me, Allan, the oldest.

Duty called me to Baltimore.

I hated leaving Bobby in charge of Allan's care as he has his own problems. But he's a sweetheart and was willing to step up to the plate. Bobby had a little trouble at first adjusting to the new scenario, Mom dying so suddenly and my needing to return to Maryland -- no choice.

I often wonder if the boys -- well, they're men now -- are truly related.

So, re-adjusting, taking a deep breath, I am guessing now that this is all fiction, though drawing one some of your own life experiences?

Very clever, Coco. Great writing!

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Why isn't anyone on JWN invited to the Facebook discussion by AAWA tonight?

by wha happened? in

i guess we're persona non grata now.

take a look at what i found on facebook:.

we're firing up the grill again!

Chariklo

It would be very surprising if it were legal in any jurisdiction to register a legal document or organisation with pseudonyms as substitutes for real names, unless it should be publicly stated that the given names are aliases and a separate document registered with the relevant authorities stating the appropriate true name and address.

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Why isn't anyone on JWN invited to the Facebook discussion by AAWA tonight?

by wha happened? in

i guess we're persona non grata now.

take a look at what i found on facebook:.

we're firing up the grill again!

Chariklo

I bet the Watchtower are rubbing their collective hands in glee.

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Could the JWs sway you back...?

by new22day in

op based on mr. freeze's topic - could attending the meetings/studying again sway any of you back to the org.

hearing the propaganda over and over again is pretty powerful i'm sure.

(i'm a non-jw, non-christian (no offense), stubborn as a bull and even i had moments of pause based on some of the doctrine (lasted 30 seconds) but i never had family/friends at stake or a background in this.

Chariklo

Nope. Not me. Not ever.

Mind you, they got me first time round. But to go back...that would mean my brain was fried, and though they tried very hard to do that, it has now mended itself.

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Anyone noticed a curiosity on the Memorial Invitation for 2013 ?

by EdenOne in

i can't scan the memorial invitation for 2013, but i was looking at it today and noticed something curious on the front drawing.. we have jesus as the central figure of the composition.

to his right and bottom, a large crown, in colour, of shiny happy people of diverse origins.. separated from this by the figure of jesus, is another group, a much smaller one, on the left and as if ascending to the top, and grayed.. clearly portrayed in this group is the face of ct russell and apparently william tyndale.

but then, also sarah and abraham and other personalities of the ot seem to be represented there.

Chariklo

The whole bang lot of them are all on the happy pill...

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Is it disrespectful to call God by his name?

by BU2B in

jw
friends

this seems to me to be yet another flawed reasoning from the wt.

god is supposed to be jw's "father".

it always seemed a bit strange even when i was mentally in, the argument they used to support using the name jehovah.

Chariklo

It has always seemed to me that anyone believing in ultimately one God, the father of all Creator of all that is, from the Universe to the smallest microbe, then, just as mankind has many languages, then inevitably any name will be in different languages.

To that extent, then, all religions believing in one God who made everything must by definition believe in the same person.

They may believe different things ABOUT him; that's another matter. Even religions that seemingly believe in a pantheon of different gods, when examined, may express those beliefs as one overall God whose many attributes are expressed in different ways or forms. That is the case with Hinduism. Even in Christianity, God is expressed at times as the ground of our being, very akin to Buddhism, as I understand it.

Christianity is expressed through an understanding of God as Three Persons, for the most part, though some express their understanding differently. Especially Jehovah's-Witness-ism.

For the most part, I find no great difference between my own orthodox Catholic beliefs and those of others whose love for Christ reveals very little difference from me.

If there is one God, then there is one God. He doesn't speak French or English or German or Hebrew or Tagalog; he speaks everything. He is boundless. Eternally the same, now and for ever, but each is dear to him, which isn't a blanket approval for doing anything.