It is not quite illegal to smack children in the UK but it is very frowned upon all round.The softly softly approach is fairly universal except amongst the more dysfunctional parents.
I have never seen a child smacked by a JW in or out of the KH.
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in the uk it is illegal to smack children so do children in the kingdom hall still get smacked ?
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Remote Viewing-has anyone heard of this or tried this?
by PaintedToeNail ini read an article on this 5 years ago or so and came upon this topic again in reviewing a book on amazon.
it entails what i think was called 'quantum entanglement', and supposedly used by the cia & the military.
it sounds fascinating to me..
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A simple way to tell God probably doesn't exist
by poor places inwhen's the last time you prayed to god?
did he respond?
i prayed to him for years and years and received no response.
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Chariklo
When's the last time you prayed to God? Did he respond?
I prayed to him for years and years and received no response. At times, I would grasp at straws and try to interpret an experience of mine as an answer to a prayer. But it was only grasping at straws. He never responded. At times, all I would ask for is a sign. There were no signs.
Sounds to me like he just said "No."
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Does anybody on here TRULY believe in the Resurrection...and how?
by itscrap&theyknowit! ini really want to see my dad again!!!!
i just wonder when this will occur.
thousands of years have gone by.
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60 years? Who are you talking to, Godrulz?
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I'm new here..... Studying with the Witnesses
by PenelopePaige inhi- i just wanted to say that i have been checking the website out for a few weeks and have read some horror stories and some sad ones.
but i have been studying with witnessess for about six months and can't help but feel that they're completely sincere and maybe even, the true religion.
i love the watchtower and awake and to me, none of that seems crazy.
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Talesin,
It's not quite as black as you've painted, is it? I think that it's impoortant not to fall into the trap of condemning absolutely everything, and in doing so misrepresenting what they actually say. Sorry to disagree, especially as your posts are normally so reasonable, but I think it's not right to say they say something that they don't.
This is for the sake of accuracy, and so that Penelope can make an informed choice.
What to wear. Not exactly. To dress respectfully, modestly and not casually, if you want to do what JW's perceive Jehovah as wanting.
What to think (jehovah knows ALL your thoughts, and WILL judge you for them). Not really. They'll teach you, from the Bible, what God wants, and then it's your choice, and that's even if you accept the Bible and God's word, and provided you even accept that there is a God.
What people you are allowed to spend time with (only other JWs). They'll teach you, from the Bible, what God wants, and how best to approach pleasing him. Up to you what you do.
That your marriage mate is a Satan worshiper. No, they won't. Not at all. Not unless your marriage mate actually knows and understands all that the Bible says and then actively chooses to turn his/her back on all of that and, knowing and understanding all the ramifications, chooses to go against God, a deliberate choice. That is a very unlikely event. Therefore they don't teach that your marriage mate is a Satan worshipper. QED.
You can never have a blood transfusion for you or your children. Yes, because that is what they perceive the Bible as saying. Find out what they really teach and make your own choice.
That your family of birth is, like your mate, a Satan worshiper. Not true at all, see above for marriage mate.
That you cannot join the military or sell tobacco products as part of your job. Correct, not if you wish to be a JW. Why? Find out their actual reasons and make your choice.
That you must be SUBMISSIVE to your husband, and his decisions are FINAL. Almost completely true, but find out their actual reasons and make your choice.
That the only basis for divorce is INFIDELITY (yes, he can beat you black and blue, but you can't divorce him). Not entirely true but as above for finding out exactly what they really teach. In practice, it isn't true at all. I know of four sisters just in our local congregation who obtained divorces because of severe beatings, and are JW's in good standing. Three were actually rescued by elders, one in this congregation and the others elsewhere.
There will absolutely be NO Christmas, birthdays, halloween, 4th of July, or ANY celebration except your wedding anniversary and what they call "the Memorial", which is a celebration of Jesus' death. Pretty well yes, but find out why they teach what they do and make your choice. As to the Memorial, it is not so much celebrating Jesus' death but the ransom paid for us. A very big subject, so best to find out what they really teach.
That you MUST go door-to-door and 'preach the word' on a regular basis. Find out what they really teach and why.
If you are a smoker, you are EVIL and WILL be disfellowshipped. They teach that smoking is unclean and displeasing to Jehovah. Well, in the UK every tobacco product carries a large prominent label stating "Smoking Kills". Find out what theiy really teach and why.
Again, sorry Talesin, hate to challenge you like that, but those statements really weren't fair and accurate. Whether or not one agrees with JW teaching is one thing, but it's reasonable not to misrepresent what they actually say and why they say it.
PS. Penelope, I've sent you a PM.
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Does anybody on here TRULY believe in the Resurrection...and how?
by itscrap&theyknowit! ini really want to see my dad again!!!!
i just wonder when this will occur.
thousands of years have gone by.
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I believe in the resurrection.
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I'm new here..... Studying with the Witnesses
by PenelopePaige inhi- i just wanted to say that i have been checking the website out for a few weeks and have read some horror stories and some sad ones.
but i have been studying with witnessess for about six months and can't help but feel that they're completely sincere and maybe even, the true religion.
i love the watchtower and awake and to me, none of that seems crazy.
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Chariklo
If you were to become a JW it would not be too long before he would be showing and telling you the same things you have heard on this website.
If the congregation found out that he was "opposing" 'Jehovah's organization' the elders would tell you that he is a great danger to your spirituality.
Before long, you would be telling the elders your innermost thoughts and your husband would feel very neglected.
Soon afterwards, your marriage would FAIL because the trust that you had treasured with your husband would be GONE.
In all fairness, that is not always the case. I was talking just an hour ago t6o a JW who was baptised 20 years ago. She's been a pioneer for some time. Her husband was against. She told me how a long time, old-style JW told her to go away with him for a weekend, spend it on their own in a hotel, miss the meeting, and make sure their relationship was rock solid. When they came back, she continued with the JW's and he allowed her to do so, while not believing. Last year, he was baptised.
I've spoken to many other JW's with similar stories. So, it's important to realise that there are personal experiences on both sides of this question. The lady I was talking to is very happy indeed.
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I'm new here..... Studying with the Witnesses
by PenelopePaige inhi- i just wanted to say that i have been checking the website out for a few weeks and have read some horror stories and some sad ones.
but i have been studying with witnessess for about six months and can't help but feel that they're completely sincere and maybe even, the true religion.
i love the watchtower and awake and to me, none of that seems crazy.
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Chariklo
When things of this nature defy explanation, it becomes very easy to attach an apparently reasonable explanation to it . . . but it can still be wrong. That the Witnesses have been able to offer such a plausible explanation has played quite nicely into their hands. Try and maintain at least a degree of scepticism. Demons may not necessarily be the answer . . . in spite of it seeming to make perfect sense.
That's good advice from Sizemik. But I was hooked by your tale of the light and the cornfield, Penelope! I agree with Rocky Girl. Sounds like UFO's to me! (I have actually seen a UFO, about 33 years ago, witnessed by several others.)
Interesting thought: does anyone know what the WT teaching on UFO's is, if any?
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Stop bashing Awake! (You just might be making it better.)
by Open mind inthe august 2011 awake!
contains the most secular article i've ever read in this magazine.
it's entitled "ibn battuta reveals his world".
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I really like the Awake magazine, and I've learned a lot of natural history that I didn't know before.
In spite of being a keen amateur naturalist all my life! To be honest, I like much that is in the public WT too.
I know there'll be a torrent of contrary opinion, but I have to speak as I find.
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I'm new here..... Studying with the Witnesses
by PenelopePaige inhi- i just wanted to say that i have been checking the website out for a few weeks and have read some horror stories and some sad ones.
but i have been studying with witnessess for about six months and can't help but feel that they're completely sincere and maybe even, the true religion.
i love the watchtower and awake and to me, none of that seems crazy.
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Chariklo
Hi Penelope,
I too found the site when studying with the Witnesses. I've sent you a private message. You'll find it if you click at the top right corner of the page. There should be an envelope. You'll probably get an error message. You just need to refresh the page, and then try again. It will open.