yes indeed... this is the new legal defence of the rcc to avoid paying out lawsuit money to victims of abuse.. i am sure the wt is keeping a keen legal eye on the outcome of this attempt and will no doubt follow their lead if successful.. published in the guardian.uk.
victims of sexual abuse by priests will no longer be able to sue the catholic church for damages if a landmark judgment rules that priests should not be considered as employees.. in a little publicised case heard this month at the high court, the church claimed that it is not "vicariously liable" for priests' actions.
the church has employed the argument in the past but this was the first time it had been used in open court and a ruling in the church's favour would set a legal precedent.. the use of the defence raises further questions about the church's willingness to accept culpability for abuse.
Believe me, Band, a lot of it is not political at all, at least in the sense I understood you to mean, political movement against the church.
Locally I have evidence of massive corruption and cover-up, not to do with abuse of the vulnerable although that is peripherally in the picture, but certainly involving money and property. The church comes out of it deservedly badly.
yes indeed... this is the new legal defence of the rcc to avoid paying out lawsuit money to victims of abuse.. i am sure the wt is keeping a keen legal eye on the outcome of this attempt and will no doubt follow their lead if successful.. published in the guardian.uk.
victims of sexual abuse by priests will no longer be able to sue the catholic church for damages if a landmark judgment rules that priests should not be considered as employees.. in a little publicised case heard this month at the high court, the church claimed that it is not "vicariously liable" for priests' actions.
the church has employed the argument in the past but this was the first time it had been used in open court and a ruling in the church's favour would set a legal precedent.. the use of the defence raises further questions about the church's willingness to accept culpability for abuse.
My sister surprised me when she said her H and she refused to give a cent to the diocese anymore.
The same is true in parishes here, in areas of England. The RC policy of cover-up and deceptiion goes to the top, where it prefers not to let the right hand know what the left is doing. It covers other areas of life than paedophilia.
What hurts them most? What causes them most sleepless nights? The abuse of little children, or the state of the coffers? You can bet it's the latter, and one only needs to look, as in the case of the C of E, at their property and investments and their links with bankers to see what's really going on.
in light of the thread on mr unthanks case gaining momentum i wonder:.
this is a real david and goliath situation.. it almost seems to good to be true that one man could cripple a multinational corporation.
all the publicity focused on the catholic church doesn't seem to have hurt them overall, it's almost like these behemoths grow so big that nothing touches them.. has a similar thing happened before?
I'll second that, Sab.
And I'll go further. The Watchtower is absolutely correct in its denunciation of the Catholic Church, which, when it comes to deception and hypnosis of the masses (small m) holds the all-time top prize.
in light of the thread on mr unthanks case gaining momentum i wonder:.
this is a real david and goliath situation.. it almost seems to good to be true that one man could cripple a multinational corporation.
all the publicity focused on the catholic church doesn't seem to have hurt them overall, it's almost like these behemoths grow so big that nothing touches them.. has a similar thing happened before?
I think the trouble is that paedophiles exist everywhere, and in societies that function within a privilege and power set-up the system gives individuals free reign to exercise their proclivities and conceal it, abusing their power and frightening victims in order to cover it up. It's the worse because of the psychological pressures used.
Oz, higher up the thread you wrote
seeing that the Catholic church has survived its battles
I don't think it has necessarily survived, you know. Hitherto Catholics are voting with their feet, closing their pursestrings and walking. In Ireland, the state is all out to investigate ever more ruthlessly, and will require priests to break the seal of the confessional, even between brother priests.
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=11031
I suspect we may even now be only at the beginning of wide exposure of cover-ups of religious corruption of various kinds, including and most especially paedophiliac abuse.
yes indeed... this is the new legal defence of the rcc to avoid paying out lawsuit money to victims of abuse.. i am sure the wt is keeping a keen legal eye on the outcome of this attempt and will no doubt follow their lead if successful.. published in the guardian.uk.
victims of sexual abuse by priests will no longer be able to sue the catholic church for damages if a landmark judgment rules that priests should not be considered as employees.. in a little publicised case heard this month at the high court, the church claimed that it is not "vicariously liable" for priests' actions.
the church has employed the argument in the past but this was the first time it had been used in open court and a ruling in the church's favour would set a legal precedent.. the use of the defence raises further questions about the church's willingness to accept culpability for abuse.
I wonder if the American church has a different culture than in England.
Possibly. In England it is entrenched in establishment, involved in political power play and in social hierarchical structure.
i love people like jackie mason, larry david, chris rock and others that make you think about the absurdities in life.. who do you enjoy?.
Gerard Hoffnung. Is there a recording out there on the web of Hoffnung at the Union? I think it is still one of the funniest things ever.Here's the best recording I can find, the whole of the Union speech in 1958.
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I don't know how to embed a link on here. Maybe someone can do a better job? It still reduces me to tears of helpless mirth each time I hear it.
More recent comedians and comedy actors?
David Jason. (Dell Boy)
Ronnie Barker
Morecambe and Wise
Victoria Wood
The whole cast of Dad's Army
and for all time...
Jack Benny
The Goons
etc, etc..
yes indeed... this is the new legal defence of the rcc to avoid paying out lawsuit money to victims of abuse.. i am sure the wt is keeping a keen legal eye on the outcome of this attempt and will no doubt follow their lead if successful.. published in the guardian.uk.
victims of sexual abuse by priests will no longer be able to sue the catholic church for damages if a landmark judgment rules that priests should not be considered as employees.. in a little publicised case heard this month at the high court, the church claimed that it is not "vicariously liable" for priests' actions.
the church has employed the argument in the past but this was the first time it had been used in open court and a ruling in the church's favour would set a legal precedent.. the use of the defence raises further questions about the church's willingness to accept culpability for abuse.
The Roman Catholic church and the Anglican church alike are past masters at covering up any wrongdoing, and are willing to exert power and pressure, to lie and generally intimidate on any matter that calls into question their integrity and good name, most especially if there is likely to be any kind of financial loss.
Band on the Run, even though the Anglican church does have lay input, in this respect it is tarred with the same brush as the RC church, at least in the UK which is where my own direct experience and knowledge is based. Ultimately, both churches are hooked on power in all its ugly forms, and they are not averse to covert strong-arm tactics either, particularly if they can lean on the vulnerable and make them quail.
i was trying to watch this movie with will smith titled "seven pounds".. i got an hour and 15 mins.
in and i just had to turn it off.. what a waste of time.. so what are some or your least favorite movies?
or some you just couldn't finish, they were just so bad?.
Moonwalker
All the Batman movies. For some reason they send me to sleep.
Bumping thread to the top of the queue.
Hoping someone will notice this.
Has anyone seen Yknot or jgnat recently?
I miss them.
