Posts by Chariklo

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An email sent to me- we are reallly close to the end

by Sour Grapes in

subject: short illustration regarding the "cowbird"hello, we recently dedicated our remodeled kingdom hall here in los angeles , and our guest speaker was bro.

javier hernandez from brooklyn bethel.

bro.

Chariklo

Well, Sour Grapes, thanks very much for the description of the cowbird. I really enjoyed that. Being in Britain, and a birdwatcher, I'd never heard of those birds and it was interesting.

A thought: Does it mind which cows it goes on? Does it always choose brown cows or branch out into white or black? Long haired? Whatever it chooses, can we read meaning for us into it?

And for the rest....well, what can I say that hasn't been said by everyone else. That Brother Hernandez....you are so blessed to have him!

Time to get ready....who would have guessed?

Armageddon must be just round the corner!

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Apostates defeated once again.....

by nananana in

before the mentally diseased apostates could get their hands on and dissect any information regarding the convention that hadn't been released to regular publishers/elders...the society released the district program on the official site completely and utterly slaying every single demented apostate on the face of the earth.

now have fun dissecting it kiddos, while we big kids get a taste of solid, spiritual meet this summer.

continue drowning in misery while god's people go on rejoicing and enduring these last days.

Chariklo

I think nananana isn't very old. Not yet grown up.

Thanks, Billy, for the direct pdf link! Saved my lazy fingers from going to jw.org. I've been reading it, to see what meet I'm going to miss. (Enjoyed your joke, Fernando! nanana is to blame for all the puns!)

So we have Cunning of Heart, Double Heart, Halfhearted and In Want of Heart.

Hmmm. Double Heart. Obviously, someone on the GB is from Gallafrey, a Time Lord, related to Dr Who. Maybe it's The Master?

In Want of Heart? Tin Man?

I'm stuck on the other two. Anyone?

But what about BrokenHearted? (The Shunned Ones.)

ColdHearted? Evil Elderettes and Pious Pioneers?

This theme has possibilities. Almost worth its own thread.

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Urgent - Any Atheists Want to be on BBC Radio 4?

by cofty in

the bbc want to interview somebody who was part of a faith community but who became an athiest due to information available on the internet.. i am tempted but to be honest the profile doesn't really fit my story.

this is a great opportunity to tell the story from the ex-jw perspective on mainstream national radio.. it is part of a four part series called "digital human" presented by guardian technology writer aleks krotoski so it will no doubt get press coverage there as well.. check out this link .

or contact .... .

Chariklo

That sounds really interesting. And a great opportunity.

One of the things that has puzzled me is why you hear nothing about JW's on the BBC. It's as though they don't exist, apart from references in occasional bits of drama. You know, like "it was just Jehovah's Witnesses at the door".

Nothing about them ever on the Sunday morning religious magazine on Radio 4 at about 7.10 am, and that covers a wide variety of religions and isn't afraid of a bit of controversy. Good programme, btw.

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Introduction / My story

by theBGB in

hello all, i've just discovered this site and i cant begin to describe how happy i am to have come across it.

i stumbled across this site purely by accident...seriously i was looking at arkham city walkthoughs and a few jumps later i end up here.

i though it was a legit society page at first and thought 'what the hell, this will be good for a laugh', but after reading a few posts well...i couldnt stop reading.

Chariklo

BGB

Oh, and how can I go back and edit posts? It pisses me off to no end seeing spelling and gramatic errors in my own writing.

Here's how to edit.

Click on the little pencil symbol in the top right of the bar just above your own post. You can edit and add and alter, and put in links etc. You can just about do anything you could when you created your post. However, you can only do it in the first....hmmm...either 15 or 20 or 30 minutes after you've entered your original post. Sorry, can't remember the exact interval of grace that we have.

Don't worry. We all make typos. I do it all the time.

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Introduction / My story

by theBGB in

hello all, i've just discovered this site and i cant begin to describe how happy i am to have come across it.

i stumbled across this site purely by accident...seriously i was looking at arkham city walkthoughs and a few jumps later i end up here.

i though it was a legit society page at first and thought 'what the hell, this will be good for a laugh', but after reading a few posts well...i couldnt stop reading.

Chariklo

Hi BGB!

Welcome to the forum!

And It's the first time I've been at the head of the welcoming queue, so that makes a first for both of us!

Yes, I've read right through all you've posted, every word.

Let me start out by saying that unlike many, probably most on here I am not a born-in JW. I got drawn in and became a very nearly, almost baptised JW, was a diligent unbaptised publisher, though I knew that I didn't buy all the beliefs. Anyway, I am fortunate in that I had a very traumatic JW experience just a matter of days before I was due to be baptised and I backed right away and haven't been back in a KH since. Nor will I ever go there again.

Your story truly made compulsive reading. You describe so well the problems of living in what sounds like a fanatical but they would probably say faithful or dutiful JW household, and your early awakening reasoning abilities. You saw clearly that it was nonsense, whereas I, equally critical in all my thinking, somehow got blinded by the nonsense.

You asked all the questions I had right from the start about the anointed. As I read, I had the thought, well, why doesn't everyone just decide they're anointed? Then everyone can go off to Heaven. Though, with what they're going to be doing there, condemned for eternity to sit on a throne ruling everyone else and no time off for good behaviour...no, that eternal boredom would never do for most sane people. Though I know some power-struck elders who'd undoubtedly relish it.

Your account of the 10-year old experience with the son of the anointed woman sounds to me as if somewhere in his life he'd experienced sexual abuse. That's not normal behaviour for a child.

I so loved your account of your mother's honesty and bravery. Even with my limited experience I know families who are shunning their DF'd ones, and justifying it by saying they do it out of love. Twisted.

Congratulations on your own frankness here, and again, welcome! Probably by the time I've posted this I'll find I'm not first in line after all!

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All you that have left

by maccauk11 in

jw
friends

hey you who have left the organisation.

especially those who call name sand are full of bitterness and bile.

i suggest you surrender to jesus and ask for a new heart .

Chariklo

Bitterness and bile? Ooooh, where?

I'm missing something. I haven't found it yet. Lots of friends and encouragement, some sadness, and lots of chuckles.

Suits me.

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Who did Jesus command to preach, the anointed or the great crowd?

by matt2414 in

when one becomes filled with the knowledge of the promised earthly paradise under christ's kingdom, one wants to share it with others.

it is good news!acts 5:41, 42.. doing this is an important way of showing that you are a disciple of jesus christ.

in the bible, jesus is called "the faithful and true witness.

Chariklo

Jesus was talking tp his disciples, and by extension, to his followers.

Jesus had never heard of the anointed or the great crowd. They got invented in Brooklyn a couple of thousand years down the line.

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A JW's Comment Regarding The Magazine downsizing

by Bangalore in

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friends

on one of those pro-jw message boards there was a small discussion about the magazine downsizing.here is one comment that stood out.. .

though the special letter read, mentioned printing, paper and the cost of presses has led to a reduction in the number of pages in the public issues of the magazines, it makes me wonder- hummmm.

the message to the public will now be shorter - and more than likely more direct.

Chariklo

They see everything as a sign the end is near.

They absolutely do. Every single thing that happens, good or bad, is seen as a sign that Jehovah is giving potential sheep one last chance, or that his chariot is picking up speed, or that the day is fast approaching, or that it's time to pack your little bag and take to the hills.

By the way, here's why they don't care to involve themselves in charitable work of any sort. All those people, they've had their chance, they spurned the mags, they're just goats destined to be wiped away.

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Mad Sweeney checking in

by Mad Sweeney in

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friends

it's been many months since i've been here.

missed the place and wanted to stop by and check in.. i have a ton of crap going on in my personal life right now.

if you're a fb friend you probably know the story already.. anyway, wanted to say hi and hope to be around a bit this summer..

Chariklo

Hey there Sweeney! Nice to see you!

Very sorry to hear that life is treating you hard.

You're going through a bad patch, but chin up, because whatever's going on things will take a turn for the better eventually. Life goes in cycles.

Look in here when you can. It's so nice to see your name again.

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Zone Overseer Talk - Would You Wear Saul's Armour?

by WinstonSmith in

i have been meaning to post these up since i signed up to jwn but, until someone mentioned the zone talk that is happening tomorrow in new zealand, i had forgotten!

i used to be a prolific note taker during public talks, assemblies and conventions.

as i became more awake to the truth about the truth this died off.

Chariklo

Giant 1 - THE WORLD ECONOMIC SYSTEM.
Our work can take our time and energy. Things are getting more expensive and need more money.
The world says that the best way to protect ourselves from this giant is to get a university education which means you can get a good job that pays well which means you can get by financially.
David would ask 'How much do you really need to live on?' 1Timothy 6:8. "We need to lower our standards. If we don't expect too much we don't get disappointed when we can't get things."

Interesting, isn't it, that the only value the Watchtower can see in education is economic? Or so they would have us believe.

I won't believe it.

All their rules and preaching that the worldly value of education is to safeguard one's economic future, whereas really good sheep should increase their faith in Jehovah, is a smokescreen, just so much noise.

They know perfectly well that an educated mind can see through their false reasoning. Education will inform and enable people to judge for themselves and make up their own mind. Education trains in real logic, not the false, twisted logic that blinds the brainwashed with lies, half-lies and twisted truths.

So they will keep on dinning into the heads of their followers that the purpose of education is to enable a person to get a better job, i.e. more money, and that all you need is to trust Jehovah and take on a menial job working for yourself.

Don't believe it. Don't be fooled. Don't let others be fooled. The real value of education is to inform and enlighten the mind, to increase real understanding and the ability to exercise real reason.

The rest is just phooey.