Trot, at least we know were not the only ones. I often try to make excuses for people (forgiving?) close to me. Treachery is something I cannot stand. If a family member or close friend betrayed my trust I would be pretty hurt about it. So, I reckon the quiz is quite accurate.
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PSYCH PROFILE - ANSWERS POSTED
by Amazing indr. phil gave this test on oprah.
some folks pay a lot of money to find this stuff out.
don't be overly sensitive!
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The sad truth is, however, that not even the best
by Bleep injust add some more scriptual evidence to help out with this great topic here.
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Here is some practical scriptural advice:
"Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves. For those ruling are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you, then, want to have no fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; for it is God's minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear; for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword; for it is God's minister, an avenger to express wrath upon the one practicing what is bad." - Romans 13:1-4 (NWT).
Child abuse is a crime, and therefore is not something that comes under the jurisdiction of any religion. Even the scriptures point to the fact that the superior authorities (law-enforcing government agencies) are appointed by God himself to deal with wrongdoers - obviously those that are criminals. So, if you know of child abuse, report it to the 'superior' authorities. -
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by Bleep injust add some more scriptual evidence to help out with this great topic here.
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Parents cannot prevent all bad things happening to their children. However, they can educate themselves regarding potential threats to their well-being. Here is the title of a book that really was a help to me and prevented a serious problem from happening with one of my children:
"Protecting The Gift - Keeping Children And Teenagers Safe (And Parents Sane)"
by Gavin De Becker
ISBN 0-385-33309-09
It focuses on the subject of sexual predators and other violent people, and instructs on recognizing clues to help detect them. Most of all it tells you to rely on your instincts and pay serious attention to 'gut' feelings of fear or uneasiness. A wonderful book that I would recommend to all parents. -
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From Intercourse to Paradise...
by NeonMadman in...with stops along the way in bird-in-hand and lancaster.. that's right.
today, i, my wife and my mother-in-law loaded ourselves into the car and drove down to pennsylvania dutch country, where we visited the towns of intercourse, paradise, and the others i mentioned.
we went to the mennonite information center, where we heard a lecture about the israelite tabernacle in the wilderness, enhanced by viewing an actual size model of the tabernacle.
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It just goes to show what lengths some people will go to get people to read their posts!
I thought it was the Garden of Eden story in reverse. Funny, it reminded me of that joke about why Adam and Eve got kicked out of Paradise:
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About Those Heavenly and Earthly Classes...
by NeonMadman inmaybe this is just something that i never thought of before, and everybody else here will find it old hat.
but i was thinking today about the jw teaching about the heavenly class (the 144,000, according to them), and the earthly class (the great crowd).
specifically, i think that it is ironic how the watchtower actually reverses what the bible says about the location of these two classes.
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NeonMadman, yes I agree with the points you made. One would think that based on the society's past record they would let sleeping dogs lie, and stay as far away from prophetic interpretation as they could.
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The BEST things about the USA
by OUTLAW inwe`ve seen some pretty mean usa bashing.so it`s time for a new thread about the good things in the usa..first off they got coors beer,a dam fine beer i must say.disineyland,what kid dosen`t want to go to disineyland?been there more than a few times and i intend to go again.tex-mex food,i`ll be dammed if i can get a decent enchilada this side of the border.the oregon coast with the giant red wood forest,a beautiful drive on a holiday.the humungas servings when you go to a usa restaraunt,especialy the steakhouse`s.so if you live in the usa,or go for a visit like i do,what are the things you enjoy in the usa?...outlaw edited by - outlaw on 2 july 2002 20:25:30.
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* Cheap vehicle fuel - expensive in the UK, and rising all the time
* Many excellent movies, and comedy shows
* Star Trek
* Diverse reading matter
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About Those Heavenly and Earthly Classes...
by NeonMadman inmaybe this is just something that i never thought of before, and everybody else here will find it old hat.
but i was thinking today about the jw teaching about the heavenly class (the 144,000, according to them), and the earthly class (the great crowd).
specifically, i think that it is ironic how the watchtower actually reverses what the bible says about the location of these two classes.
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NeonMadman, interesting post, the only problem is that JWs will point to Hebrews 12:22:
"But what you have come to is Mount Zion and the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem where the millions of angels have gathered for the festival." (New Jerusalem Bible)
So, the argument is that the 'Mount Zion' mentioned in Revelation is heavenly, even though it takes its name from an earthly source. I'm not trying to contend with you, just making an observation. However, your reference to a 'great crowd' (Greek = 'megalen ochlou') being in heaven is indisputable (Revelation 19:1). The society has chosen to interpret the 'great crowd' (Greek = 'ochlos polus' - 'crowd many'; which is just another way of saying 'megalen ochlou' - 'large/great crowd') of Revelation 7:9 as being on earth, but someone with no doctrinal bias could reasonably come to the conclusion that both 'great crowd's were the same entity. A scripture that has a bearing on this subject of course is John 10:16 where Jesus speaks about 'other sheep, not of this fold'. Again, an unbiased person who knew about the early activities and experiences of the Christians and had read the Apostle Paul's letters could reasonably come to the conclusion that the 'other sheep' refered to the 'gentile' Christians who by comparison with Jewish converts would constitute a 'great crowd'. Viewing Jesus words in this way is compatible with the fact that Revelation refers on the one hand to 144,000 out of various tribes (as a representation of Israel, not an absolute - thus allowing for the slight difference in the 12 tribes stated at Genesis 49) of Israel, and a 'great crowd' out of all tribes of the earth. -
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Wholewheat please read.
by Pureheart inhi wholewheat,.
when i first came onto this board i was shocked at the language too.
please go to my member page and read starting on the second page, so there are rules of conduct, what rule of conduct exists here, too much hatred in here, get over it.
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WholeWheat:
I understand your concerns about how some people adopt a 'no holds barred' type approach to posting. As usual, Hillary_Step gave a well-reasoned explanation and valid observations with regard to 'board life'. Of course in an ideal debating environment, there would be respect for each person even if there was not respect for each view. Name-calling, being verbally abusive to individuals, put-downs, and being generally provocative, is in my view rather childish, that is why I am wary of certain people here who appear to revel in being abusive. I have, of course, the option not converse with them. These people are time wasters. The worst are those who use 'hook and bait' techniques to draw you into endless discussions that lead nowhere. They do no good to their cause (whether pro- or anti- the society/JWs). In my experience these people inhabit all sorts of forums (not just religious). They are like a vindictive kid on the beach who comes along and kicks over another child's sandcastle. For what reason? It gives them a sense of power. I'm talking about personal attacks on individuals. Now you come across as being a reasonable, thinking person, and this is just the sort of person I and others are pleased to engage in conversation, even if we may strongly disagree with that other person's point of view on a certain matter.
There are some online posters in various forums who claim to be active 'loyal' JWs (and we only have their word for it!), but display an aggressive and abusive nature. I wonder if they would be like this if they were actually talking face to face with the other person. Here I think is the key: It is the mode of communication which provides the temptation to be less than civil. It is the shielding from physical human confrontation that makes it so easy to abuse others with seeming impunity. Just like road rage, people who may ordinarily check their behaviour let go of restraint because their vehicles provide a protective enclosure and the mobility to 'escape'. I used to wonder how people who got drunk could become aggressive, because alcohol only makes me sleepy and more relaxed. It seems obvious to me that given the right conditions (i.e. no/few restraints) people will exhibit their true inner self.
People who verbally abuse others in cyberspace are not really the type of people I would want to talk to in real life, so why should I talk to them here? Don't be put off by those who have decided that its 'JW season' and that taking pot shots at JWs is therefore fair game. There are members here who, once they are satisfied that you are not out to 'get them', are more than willing to engage in meaningful and respectful discussions.
Lastly, however, I would repeat what other members have said, and which you need to keep in mind in order not to throw out the baby with the bath water. Many folk have legitimate cause for complaint about things that have happened to them that are directly related to living life as a JW. So don't be surprised when you see posts lampooning the society and jokes directed to those within the organisation who abuse their positions of authority over others. This is a non-personally abusive way of releasing righteous indignation, but it is not necessarily directed toward JWs in general. In my own case, my argument is with the society, not with individual JWs, many of whom (in my experience) are kind, pleasant people to know and fit in well with my value-system of concern and respect for others. I do appreciate there are congregations like yours where it appears one can freely discuss concerns about the society without fear of being labelled 'apostate' - but based on the experience of many JWs and XJWs they are the exception rather than the rule. I think it only proper that you should treasure your friendships with the loving brothers and sisters you have in your congregation.
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A NEW SIGN OUT FRONT AT BETHEL!
by Mary ini think it's time bethel got a new sign out front, one that really speaks volumes and is far more suitable to their "read god's word the bible daily.
i was thinking: .
oh what a web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!
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