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  The folly of Watchtower's theodicy. Or, why would an all-powerful and all-wise God need to justify his sovereignty through suffering?

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watchtower says that evil and suffering exist at present to vindicate jehovah as being the only one qualified to govern; to bear witness to man's inability to govern himself independent of god and under satan's direction.

  the claim is made that the questions raised by satan regarding god's motives as universal sovereign can only be answered by allowing humans to see the evil and suffering that results when man lives independent of god's protection and direction.. watchtower and jws seem to think that this is the best theodicy in the world.

  but there are some serious flaws in it.. 1. such a theodicy suggests that all perfect and intelligent creation, up until the advent of adam and eve, did not know god and his ways well enough to be confident that his motives as universal sovereign are pure.

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  I need some advice

  by SpunkedTeen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i dont think ill be able to leave the organization,you see i have no close friends in or outside the jws and my entire family is part of the cult,if i leave my mom and the rest of my family will be heartbroken and i dont want to be the reason they are hurt.

  im not particularly close to any of my family members but i still care for them.

  i could really use some advice because i have no one else to turn too..

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  Talk with a witness, my " Final Showdown"

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday a witness friend asks why i don't attend the k.h anymore.. me:- " i don't say this often but your j.ws opinion is wrong" .

  the end.. my reasons for this simple reply were:-.

  a) i have grown tied of reading j.w crap.

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  New Geoffrey Jackson statement on Royal Commission's webpage!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  check his signature... it looks kind of childish/feminine (at least in my part of the world)... is this a grown man's signature for you?.

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=9d0ca1dc-1bd6-41c4-9cfc-b1d616d1cc65&type=exhibit&filename=stat.0670.001.0001&fileextension=pdf.

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  In 3 and one half-hours time..

  by snugglebunny in

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  2. friends

  in 3 and one half-hours time..queen elizabeth will become the longest reigning sovereign ever.. you go, girl!.

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  My 67 Year Old Elder Brother Is Depressed Because The Younger Elders Are Taking Over

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he was the school overseer but they relieved him of that to allow younger elders the privilege of the job.

  now he is depressed and actually shed tears, believing his worth has diminished.

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  What went wrong in your congregation?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the target is converts.. why does it seem such an outrageous aim for a congregation to recruit new converts?.

  in my old congregation, the enthusiasm was there but the knocking on doors produced zero " baptisms" in my final years.. a) why so little interests?.

  b) was it the internet ?.

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  Should Charity Organizations Be Forced To Be Transparent As To Where The Money Goes? Watchtower's Financial Books Should Be Made Public

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know there is much encouragement for charities to have financial transparency and i'm all for it reguardless of whether they are a religion or whatever.

  also lawsuit pay out should made easy identifiable on tax form too.

  any charity should be accountable to the general public when funds are used to pay out lawsuits so that the general public is aware of where their money is going.

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  Why Me?

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  do you ever wonder why out of all the witnesses, you are the one that woke up?

  i wonder many times why me.

  i know many men and women that are much, much better persons than me; either they are much smarter, more humble, kinder, more successful, or just better persons all around.

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  Are There Good People Out There?

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even though i'm no longer mentally a jw (i still technically am) i do recognize that there are some benefits to being raised one.

  for example, the first (and only so far) wordly guy i was involved with had to smoke weed every day and got drunk all the time and that was his idea of fun.

  i couldn't help but feel bad for him.

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