Sorry... maybe I'm wrong. Maybe its still too sensitive for me. But I jut cant seem to square the circle with people that stay and hold responsibility !
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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?
by Kensho inapostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.
i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.
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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?
by Kensho inapostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.
i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.
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By pretending these are all people with autonomy that you have no influence over is just wrong. Everytime you get up and give a talk TEACHING those people falsehood you are continuing the lie. Everytime you dont standup and deny it all being true you allow the lies to live.
Lets be frank, you could leave. Its hard but it is essentially the right thing to do. The society is NEVER going to become THE tre religion. You may have family etc and feel this is impossible, granted... but do you have to serve as an Elder? Does the pull of being a big fish in a small pond mean so much to you? As an elder you affect peoples lives.
I really, really dont know how you do it.
Before you tell me how ignorant I am, I mean no offence, I sincerely dont. I dont pretend to understand everyone's situation. But I really, really dont know how the elders here sleep at night. Be honest is it difficult? Does the conscience not cry out ?
Snare x
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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?
by Kensho inapostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.
i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.
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People in case 2 may make a stand based on principle, maybe to save their kids from not having blood or missing christmas or birthdays, or from mental turmoil and anguish, maybe even by some stroke of irony after having sat reading threads here... but you 'helping' them get DF'd and being cut off from all their family and friends really isnt an issue for your conscience? Nobody WANTS to get DF'd for apostacy, but someone may want to make a stand for whats right! I know someone now that may get DF'd for apostacy, because she loves her family and wants them to realise they have been lied too! What is there to hide Elderite? Why cant we speak openly about the lies the WT tell ? Its all bullshit and you know it is! You really have no issue with this kind of person being severed from her family and friends because she does it on principle?
Its a lose lose situation for you! The day you 'save someone' from a DF for saying something they shouldnt have , may at best lead to them and their children staying and being JW's for countless more years. YOu are a part of that ! It may lead to one of their children denying blood and dying ! So you are not saving them by stopping them from leaving either.
As for helping someone by privately reproofing them so they can snaeak off out the back door.... whatever appeases your conscience!
I dont know how you do it, I really dont!
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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?
by Kensho inapostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.
i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.
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LOL AB... Anyway......
Elderlite. With apostacy being such a hot topic in the congs right now, how would you feel giving a talk on it? Or answering in the WT on it? Or as was asked, if someone was to be JC for it?
(sorry Kensho, flipped out a little at the rudeness of some people)
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College and the Watchtower: Remember One Thing
by metatron inif any of you lurkers listen to a rant by the society against college, remember one thing:.
the brother giving the talk is probably an utter hypocrite.. there are a few exceptions but consider that many elders are financially secure - which allows them to be elders.
while they talk about not planning for the future because armageddon 'is so close', they have pensions, ira's, roth accounts and investments.
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"..many have acquired marketable job skills by means of apprenticeship programs, some vocational or technical school education, or short-term college courses that require a minimum of time and involvement."
How far removed from reality can you be, these shit jobs require the MOST time and INVOLVMENT if you wish to live from them!
Doug Standhope called college "The place where dreams are narrowed down.... sooooo, plumber, joiner or painter?!"
To think that JW's actually feel this is success is ridiculous! If a JW gets a trade he is considered special ! In real life, these people are at the bottom of the ladder (no offence I did all those bum jobs too).
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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?
by Kensho inapostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.
i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.
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OMG you havent took the hint that I am not interested in your games? You asked for a book , i gave you the details, you then told me you would not read it anyway... thats joking around, pissing about, being a wanker, trolling..... what do you call it?
People dont answer you for a reason! You really need to be warned by admin here. You are destroying threads.
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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?
by Kensho inapostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.
i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.
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caps lock and swear words.......
Thats it, be quiet in the corner like an ADULT.
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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?
by Kensho inapostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.
i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.
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N.Drew you are trolling EVERYONE.
Seriously, stop! It is sincerely embarassing to read. Before you reply with a bucket-load of emotional train wreckage, stop yourself. You were so keen to spit out the paranoid post you forgot to add commas. Please, stop yourself!!!! ....And as for telling 'still thinking' how to use PM, maybe if you used PM yourself it would save us having to read your psych issues on every interesting thread.
WE GET IT ! YOU ARE HERE ! YOU WANT OUR ATTENTION ! Now stop acting like a 9 year old girl! If you want our help or attention PM us, otherwise Shuuuush !!!!
Ahem....
Elderite, I am very interested in your opinion on this issue.....
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Question for elders about MEMORIAL EMBLEMS...
by Alfred inwhat is done with the bread and the wine after the conclusion of the memorial?.
is it normally tossed in the trash and poured down the drain?.
if so, wouldn't that be simbolic of throwing jesus' body in the trash and pouring his blood into the sewer?.
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Just goes to show how seriously they REALLY take the sybolic nature of it all. Ok it is just wine, but out of respect you really would pour it away. But no, thinking they are cool for doing so, they ALWAYS take it and drink it, no doubt feeling a teeny bit odd and guilty all the while thinking it is "way cool" that they have the authority to take it home and drink it.
What a sham. Also I bet it comes out of the cong accounts too so doubtless it will be shit, I wonder what wine they purchase? Is it a specific type that bethel demand?
When you think about it, what a strange and odd concept. Going to a store, buying wine to be passed around a bunch of people to let it represent Jesus's blood.... so freaking weird! The fact most dont see the OBVIOUS pagan roots to this ceremony is just as mysterious in itself.
The things you find normal, when everyone around you tells you its normal!
Snare x
P.s. check out my new blog if you would xxx muchos loveos science-in-wonderland.blogspot.co.uk
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College and the Watchtower: Remember One Thing
by metatron inif any of you lurkers listen to a rant by the society against college, remember one thing:.
the brother giving the talk is probably an utter hypocrite.. there are a few exceptions but consider that many elders are financially secure - which allows them to be elders.
while they talk about not planning for the future because armageddon 'is so close', they have pensions, ira's, roth accounts and investments.
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I was a pioneer and a bethelite, but now at an older age have returned to education. I hope to encourage people to do it also as there is a REASON they hate education so much... it holds a light to their lies and trickery...
Please check out my brand new blog and support it if you can xx
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