london baby!.
natural history museum, british museum, science museum, art museums a weekend of cheap hotels and eating out... maybe a show!.
wouldn't that be a great weekend?
Aww
I was in Pompey recently....... Now there is a good museum, naval war museum, HMS Victory, HMS Warrior and the freaking Mary Rose, fav ship of... Henry VIII how awesome is that!?
Anyways..... There is no rush with the museum/London idea, maybe in a couple of months time, perhaps just before summer X (ideal with my exams anyway)
london baby!.
natural history museum, british museum, science museum, art museums a weekend of cheap hotels and eating out... maybe a show!.
wouldn't that be a great weekend?
LONDON BABY!
Natural History Museum, British museum, science museum, art museums a weekend of cheap hotels and eating out... Maybe a show!
Wouldn't that be a great weekend? No JW guide to bother us and divert us past the monkey men section :P
If anyone is interested in a weekend or day trip next year, give us a shout, it would be a fun and interesting day/s for sure! Its just an excuse to meet up and have a giggle and a gander!
snare x
perhaps the most common misunderstanding that prevents people from grasping evolution is complexity.. we see it almost daily on the forum where people mention dna or the eye or any of a multititude of examples and ask how it could have arose "by blind chance"?.
whenever you see a reference to chance and complexity it is obvious the person hasn't yet grasped the basics of the theory.
chance is only one part of the process.
We defo need a beer night, imagine how geeky we could all be! Ha ha... Maybe a museum trip... No JW guide this time? X
we have had a variety of theist vs atheist debates on this forum.
usually, it devolves (or evolves?
) into a debate on what can or cannot be proven.. so let's step back a second.
Oxytocin is involved in bonding and breast feeding, it does pour out when dating and seeing 'loved' ones etc. the reality is that there are a handful of chemicals buzzing out under these circumstances, but we know all the hormones of the body, their excretion cells and receptors. We are still learning what bevents exactly release what hormones, just because psychology is complex and its evolutionary motive was only understood properly since Dawkins wrote the selfish gene.
basically however, just remember we have calm feelings and stress feelings and that is all basically... The body offers those two sensations depending on circumstance. The flight/fright/freeze response is all we have, whether it is on or off. There is evidence of the stress hormones (Corticol) being released as part of the 'love' feeling. Of course, anyone experiencing love knows that, a combination of acute doses of fear snd anxiety... Dry mouth, butterflies in the stomach, rapid bresthing, sweaty palms, fast heart beat... These are cortisol receptors firing, danger responses (taking blood from peripheries to prevent bleeding from cuts/wounds and sending blood to thighs for running, biceps, brain and heart, the blood in the guts is taken to vital organs hence the butterfly feeling, feeling sick etc)
It's exciting stuff, I hate to appear a grinch by saying there is no mystery to how this all works, but as I said, understanding it all increases the awe for such sensations and experiences, it doesnt reduce them. Even if ut did, it would still be the truth.
its an important point to think on, because for god to 'love' he needs endorphin, setetonin, dopamibe,madrenaline and oxycontin release and reception..... Awaiting some bizzare pseudo scriptural talk that someone invents on the spot :P xxx
love you all.... He he x
you are probably wondering what these two subjects have in common.
well, i have been pondering something for quite some time.
i have been trying to figure out how explain the recent and huge doctrinal shifts of the wtbts since the 2012 annual meeting, and the accompanying modernizing of the jw official website.
Data dog..... im, one of them,, i eat that fake lens flare right up ;)
we have had a variety of theist vs atheist debates on this forum.
usually, it devolves (or evolves?
) into a debate on what can or cannot be proven.. so let's step back a second.
Its a complex hormone response based on attraction, feeling of security and 'positive' memories built on input from the senses.
Animals have similar responses and attachments, its just a word we humans have ascribed to that feeling. Its all about biology, procreation and protecting the preservation of the genes, its a very selfish response, though beautiful in its own right. I needs to be, the species wouldnt survive without it.
People prefer the fairy dust version of life, but the reality is what it is and to me, no less fantastic and awe inspiring.The fact that chemical molecules can evoke such feelings, made of atoms found in stars.... Is immense.
Drugs such as LSD etc replicate these sensations, many drugs induce this endorphin rush..
so i am at a loose end tonight.
i am not going to the meeting and sitting on the back row looking repentant no way!.
here are some options... care to add some if you wish, help me to decide.. 1. go to the meeting and sit in the middle, reading "einstein and religion" paperback, go in early and stay after the prayer.
An evening class? You are a smart cookie.... Catch up on lost knowledge thanks to the Watchtower 'education'...
a thread on another forum reminded me of a letter i wrote to the person that went to the elders and started the proceedings to have me disfellowshipped.
i stopped believing in the religion when i was 25 but continued going for about ten years.
i finally started to fade at 35, but about 6 months after i had stopped going to meetings, a person wrote a letter to the elders about my website, which at the time was anonymous.
Sweet x
yesterday me and the wife were talking about how much better life has become.
she said something that got me thinking and made me a bit sad for a while.
we were discussing where we are at individually in our quest for understanding about the "super-natural" and i expressed i have no belief in it at all and how much i have changed she says, "i don't think you have changed much.
I say dont be an atheist unless you do so for reasons of evidence and logic and happiness. GO search out truth, see what you find.
I mean the above sentence with all sincerity, but having done the above myself, to a reasonable degree (for me) I ended up where you have started...atheism.
I see it like this....lA teacher could ask a ridiculously hard math question and a kid could shout '32' out loud immediately, the other kids solve the question and get the answer 32. The kids who worked for it feel like they earned the correct answer, the kid who shouted s number on instinct, even a guess...,probably had no satisfaction and no sense of achievement, no learning experience and no respect from his teacher.....but still..... The answer was 32.
snare x
you are probably wondering what these two subjects have in common.
well, i have been pondering something for quite some time.
i have been trying to figure out how explain the recent and huge doctrinal shifts of the wtbts since the 2012 annual meeting, and the accompanying modernizing of the jw official website.
JJ abrams likes to add tonnes of crappy fake light to his films..... You can see where I was going with this
