Posts by snare&racket

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OMFG Dinosaurs and Noah

by konceptual99 in

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just fell off my chair whilst listening to the bible "highlights".

someone has actually just said that the flood account actually helps inform scientists on matters that perplex them.

for example for decades they have wondered how the dinosaurs all disappeared but if they looked at the account of the flood then they would see the answer.

ignoring the fact that all but the super jw's had a random stab at hours done in the ministry, with all the different activities the society said counted as ministry hours, just how accurate is there annual report?.

what activities do you know of that were allowed to be counted as ministry time?

here are some i knew of.... .

snare&racket

"people cheated............some didn't - some were very righteous"

I knew people that only counted time talking to people, they took a stop watch with them. They never got their hours in.

Also 'righteous'.... I have no comment, just giggles.

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Why is it so hard to speak about Jehovah's Witnesses in neutral terms?

by neverendingjourney in

catholicism.

islam.

buddhism.

snare&racket

Sorry, sorry, sorry.....

Sand diego is where the mansion is, apologies, I thought it was in L.A. (forgive me I am in the Uk). It is definetly a mansion to me by the way. Have you seem the home movie footage of Beth Sarim on youtube? It has apple orchards!

The older literature was very much against vaccines, organ transplants and I was sure blood too, though I know freddy franz made it a hard rule. Maybe I am wrong on it being in the earlier literature, but i was sure I had seen it. I will check that out, sorry if I was wrong.

As for the reply on the decleration of facts pixel...

The Society said the denunciation of "commercial Jews" in the Declaration "clearly did not refer to the Jewish people in general, and it is regrettable if it has been misunderstood and has given cause for any offense."

Jehovah's Witnesses–Courageous in the Face of Nazi Peril", Awake!, July 8, 1998, pgs 10-14.

This is what the racist Rutherford had written

"The greatest and most oppressive empire on earth is the Anglo-American empire. By that is meant the British Empire, of which the United States of America forms a part. It has been the commercial Jews of the British-American empire that have built up and carried on Big Business as a means of exploiting and oppressing the peoples of many nations. This fact particularly applies to the cities of London and New York, the stronghold of Big Business. This fact is so manifest in America that there is a proverb concerning the city of New York which says: 'The Jews own it, the Irish Catholics rule it, and the Americans pay the bills.' We have no fight with any of these persons mentioned, but, as the witnesses for Jehovah and in obedience to his commandment set forth in the Scriptures, we are compelled to call attention to the truth concerning the same in order that the people may be enlightened concerning God and his purpose.

Instead of being against the principles advocated by the government of Germany, we stand squarely for such principles, and point out that Jehovah God through Christ Jesus will bring about the full realization of these principles and will give to the people peace and prosperity and the greatest desire of every honest heart ... A careful examination of our books and literature will disclose the fact that the very high ideals held and promulgated by the present national government are set forth in and endorsed and strongly emphasized in our publications, and show that Jehovah God will see to it that these high ideals in due time will be attained by all persons who love righteousness and who obey the Most High. Instead, therefore, of our literature and our work's being a menace to the principles of the present government we are the strongest supporters of such high ideals."

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I don't love my family

by noontide in

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how can i love people that dont really know me?

how can i love people i dont really know?.

thats not love.

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When I read about the average persons view on physical smacking of children I am amazed at how backward the JW family life is. Such physical attacks build distance and contempt, they deaden natural affections and introduce fear and resentment. If you smacked an adult you would go to jail, I have never seen a parent smack a child calmly with the motive to teach, it has always been in frustration and a matter of revenge.

Smacking children is endemic to the JW's as is the threat of being removed from the home if you dont live by JW rules. You can have a fantastically good child, but if he doesnt want to go door to door or if he dare fancy a girl or if she dare wear makeup...its threats of being homeless and possibly violence. The worst of it is seiing rules you see your parents and elders break all the time, whether it be being drunk, bring crass, gossiping etc, the JW world is very unjust, your authority, sex and family connections dictate your ability to escape punishment. The contemplation of worth and value to your parents being second to this sham belief system has an effect.

No christmas, no birthdays, dragging to meetings, ministry, endless UNPAID LABOUR by children, it is unforgivable. I love my own time, when I was a kid, I wanted to do my own thing, be it reading books, tinkering with my bike or a computer or my guitar. I was content with myself, but that time was taken, ministry came first. Children in normal society have a weekend. JW kids don't even get that respite. 8am every saturday, get up for ministry, 8am every sunday, get up for meetings! That time is gone, we wont EVER get it back and it does cause frustration and anger.

This all contributes to less than natural feelings for your parents.

By the way, if you smack your child and leave a mark, it is 7 years in jail in the uk. Wales is trying to introduce a no smack rule as some parents think they are allowed to smack, but in reality the rules say for infants, a small smack to teach them to avoid dangers may be used, but the government, doctors, health workers are concerned that people think they have a pass to smack kids.

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Seven Headed Wild Beast officially no longer represents UN?

by donuthole in

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according to a new "bible questions answered": " the wild beast with seven heads introduced at revelation 13:1 represents the worldwide political system.".

i know that they have quietly been backing away from the un identification for awhile.

is this feature on jw.org a new official teaching, or just a spin for the sake of the public?.

snare&racket

And so it begins....... next district assembly..... "it isnt the UN its world governments", eveytime one attacks them, they can claim it is fulfillment of prophecy.

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Cold Fusion Moves Into Mainstream

by metatron in

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http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/15/cold-fusion-moves-into-mainstream.

you shills aren't doing your job.

you need to provide more ridicule to stop this movement from saving the human race and changing the world.. hey, i'm just sayin'.

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Metatron is entertaining, I am open minded , because after 25yrs of being closed minded I have regrets.... and an unwanted ministry bag.

I just hope his motives are sincere.

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bassackwards

by stuckinamovement in

am i the only one that finds it funny that the organization's campaign this month is to offer a printed magazine that is simply an ad for a website?

what's more is they have printed close to 50 mil copies which will be delivered by an army of volunteers who drive minivans and knock on the doors of empty houses repeatedly until they find someone at home...... can you imagine facebook going door to door to spread the word about how awesome their site is?.

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DOC

I meant, it will fail, in that I think they built it as an alternative to forums such as this and they are promoting the name so that people google JW.ORG and not Jehovah's Witnesses, which brings people here and wikipedia.

For many obvious reasons, I think this will fail, some og which I mention, like the consumer nature of people to seek out alternate reviews and opinons. If I want to buy an iphone, the last place I look is apple.com

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

snare&racket

Yeah, it is a good book.

I only have amateur interest in physics and I had no problem with it.

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NASA Identifies The Hand of God

by Perry in

it even has what looks like blood flowing from a palm wound.

article.

world-renowned astrophysicist robert jastrow, founding director of nasas goddard institute for space studies, explains the fear of faith many of todays scientists experience.. there is a kind of religion in science, it is the religion of a person who believes there is order and harmony in the universe, and every effect must have its cause; [but] there is no first cause.

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OMG looky what I found....

The WANG of GOD !

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I don't love my family

by noontide in

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how can i love people that dont really know me?

how can i love people i dont really know?.

thats not love.

snare&racket

I think the JW's deaden natural feelings for people. How else can you shun them or pray for the end of mankind