http://descrier.co.uk/science/fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks.
i used to consider sharks to be evidence for creation - and against evolution because it was stated that they are largely unchanged after millions of years ( hence, 'what evolution?')..
that's not the case, however.
Beautifully put ! I really owe that man much. Does anyone remember the Telegraph and Guardian giving away little books on topics such as philosophy, quantum physics etc about 5 years ago. That little book on philosophy explained Plato's concept with a table and it made no sense as I could not think of a real world application of people having such a perspective, then Dawkins hit the nail on the head...boom.
Thank you Cofty xxxx
ever since reading about dmt and hearing people discuss it, my new post-jw open mind wants to experience it.
anyone here tried it or feels the same?.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqzhzax4ro.
I wasn't judging you for perhaos not seeing/telling one, forgive me, I was just wondering if there was anyone monitoring your health over the time period of your use.
Thank you for answering , may I ask how you found out about it in the first place and what evidence, reading, research did you do before hand ?
i'm testing a theory.. so many people discuss whether or not 144,000 is a literal number.. i want to discuss, what if 144,000 is not a number of individuals, rather a number of groups of people.. .
while there is no unanimous acceptance or truth, some believe that the book if revelation was written in hebrew originally.
my theory is based in this possibility.
I remember reading the verses as a child and saw the obvious math, twelve representatives iof the twelve tribes = 144
With emphasis 144,000 was said, just like jesus and his forgiving people 77 times, it is an issue of poetic license from the writer, along with the dragons and wild beasts with several heads and horns and lakes of fire etc etc etc...
Just my uninformed, ignorant opinion, but it seemed obvious as a kid, knowing the times tables.... 12x12 = 144
http://descrier.co.uk/science/fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks.
i used to consider sharks to be evidence for creation - and against evolution because it was stated that they are largely unchanged after millions of years ( hence, 'what evolution?')..
that's not the case, however.
Was it something about rabbits cofty? He said it better, I remember he discussed a bell shaped curve and that the average appearance for a species over its time on earth. I believe he offered this as the best we could argue in setting a 'blueprint' or 'gold standard'. It is a very, very potent point as it proves Genesis & the Noah account as pure hogwash.
If god made animals as kinds in their form.... then what the hell are all those other kinds buried under us that change in charachter as we dig further and further back in time, until the species at the end of the spectrum is totally different from the one we began with..... otherwise known as.... TA DA...
E V O L U T I O N
ever since reading about dmt and hearing people discuss it, my new post-jw open mind wants to experience it.
anyone here tried it or feels the same?.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqzhzax4ro.
Have you ever told your doctor about your use and experiences?
http://descrier.co.uk/science/fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks.
i used to consider sharks to be evidence for creation - and against evolution because it was stated that they are largely unchanged after millions of years ( hence, 'what evolution?')..
that's not the case, however.
Totally understandable Met, don't be too hard on yourself
witnesses brag that they are the most honest people in the world!.
but, they teach their followers that it's ok to lie if someone is not "entitled" to know the truth.. .
Apparantly....
JW's don't want to convert you...
They don't discourage higher education...
They don't judge people...
They don't claim to be the only right religion...
They don't claim that only they will survive armageddon...
They are not asked for money....
They don't shun their family or loved ones....
They don't take the bible literally.....
They are not creationists....
They do teach people in local communities how to read....
They don't have stocks and shares or lawyers or gag orders
They don't protect paedophiles or move them around or withold evidence from police....
But having been a JW for 25 years, I know the 'truth' to these claims....
do you have questions about or want to understand evolution?
it is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.. i sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about.
we are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.. evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.. no pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.. .
Hey Lost xxx I am fine thanks, good to see you again! First there is ALWAYS time for learning about our universe! What better thing to do between sleep, meals, coffee and Breaking Bad?
Good to see you again, keep in touch x
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i used to consider sharks to be evidence for creation - and against evolution because it was stated that they are largely unchanged after millions of years ( hence, 'what evolution?')..
that's not the case, however.
There seems to be an assumption that evolution has a goal and its........a human. Our ego knows no bounds. They don't realise that a frog is as evolved as we are. The motivation is the enviroment nothing more. There is also NO BLUEPRINT for a species or animal. There is no gold standard human or perfect shark, it is just constant change influenced by the enviroment, hence the term NATURAL selection.
Someone was posting here in the last 12 months claiming that white people are more evolved than african tribal people.
Ignorance can be bliss, but it can also be dangerous.
I remember reading Plato and the concept of isms, so a table is a representation of tableism. There is an ideological and gold standard 'table' concept and from that we can imagine, construct and compare the idea of a table. This concrete thinking is common to the human mind and it inteferes with our understanding of evolution. We look at a shark in 2014 and say THAT is a shark, as if there was a sharkism concept to measure from....but there isn't.
Sharks have changedvover millions of years, so much so the earlier ancestors would be unrecognisable as a 2014 shark, proving the concept of 'isms' incorrect, despite humans looking at the world with that mindset.
I am rubbish at philosophy and may have explained it poorly, sorry if that was the case xxx
ever since reading about dmt and hearing people discuss it, my new post-jw open mind wants to experience it.
anyone here tried it or feels the same?.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqzhzax4ro.
I really didn't want to go down this route, because this isn't a lecture, it is a chat.... but people are talking about these 'drugs' without realising it is a chemical reaction seen in many common medicines and interactions already.
People are imagining sitting in a room injecting or smoking this 'drug' with a dodgy, dangerous atmosphere painted and implications of runining your brain. BUT.. this is ignorany of the chemistry, we also already use sister molecules with psych issues, depression, ADHD, parkinsons, mood disorders, anxiety disorders. All these chemicals alter the seretonin (5HT) levels, they just do it different ways.
People keep giving anecdotal opinion about drug abuse, totally missing the point.
I am honestly interested in the visual and auditory hallucinations experienced, I think it can teach us much about such pathology as schizophrenia, something we know VERY, VERY little about.
Then there is the potential with such REM sleep disorders such as narcolepsy. Then there is the uses of a psychadelic as an anaesthetic experience, end of life management, palliatuive care.... NOT that there is currently any resear h in these areas..... which is my exact point.
Now back to the people who have experienced it.....
How long did it last? What did you see hear? Did you experience things outside of your own historical experiences or imagination? Could you still see, hear and interact with the world around you? Did you consciously realise it was a false experience?
