Posts by snare&racket

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JW refuses to provide wedding stationery to Gay couple

by KateWild in

i was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.

i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.

i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.

snare&racket

I agree Lisa, it is,hard to appease everyone especially when some have beliefs that would harm others.

I can respect a persons right to a belief and defend their right to have that belief, but if that belief reduces the quality of life or freedoms of another, then I believe that belief system should be restrained and legally harnassed to the believer alone.

The irony of the conservative christians to seek the freedom to shoot their gun and preach their homophobia, but also then to be demanding to deny other people their rights to choose..... is a contradiction in respect and of human perspective.

It simply comes down to the idea that they believe they are simply RIGHT, they are of and for god and so care not about anyone else. The world is for them and nobody else and their god is about to come prove it. The deepest irony being that this behaviour is as far from Jesus's example on earth as possible!

I am an atheist and straight, but I don't know how I would tackle Luke 17 anymore if I was a believer and homophobic. It is about being saved on jesus's return...

31 “In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods arein the house, let him not come down to take them away. And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back. 32 Remember Lot’s wife. 33 Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left.

Make what you will of the next verse ;) x

35 Two women will be grinding together the one will be taken and the other left. 36 Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left.” [f]

247

Science proves there is a God

by seekchristonly in

fusion with god natural .

in the cosmos universe or whatever.

all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.

snare&racket

SEEK, a lot has been said since I replied. I don't want to skip on beyond what you said back to me,

Can I ask you to show me just one scientific theory based on no evidence please. I have spent 7 years in science now and I have not yet come across a theory with no evidence, it is actually quite oxymornic as a claim. But I don't want to dismiss your words, I am open minded to proof from you, of your claim. I appreciate you are not well versed in science, but if you believe a theory can exist without any evidence it is important to calrify it for you and anyone reading this thread.

So yes, please can you demonstrate just one scientific theory that has no evidence.......Just one.

snare x

P.s. I assume you know the parameters and definitions of 'scientific' (via the scientific method) and 'theory' (body of knowledge).

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JW refuses to provide wedding stationery to Gay couple

by KateWild in

i was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.

i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.

i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.

snare&racket

Where are the adverts where a gay man drives a car and attracts another gay man? Where are the adverts where a woman is attracted to another woman drinking a can of diet coke?

The only agenda has been a straight agenda! People need to grow up, the media is simply catching up with reality.

For everyone that says the knife sharp words 'do what you want in your own home but I don't want my children to see it' are dumb as hell and damn cold hearted too! It is anotjer way of saying, I cant stop you I just dont want to look at you! Their children may well be gay and may well grow up feeling broken and abnormal IF WE DON'T represent reality in the media.

When black people were first allowed in the media there was outrage, there was talk of a black agenda. Come on, it is time to grow up!

Do you remember the age you decided to be straight and fancy the opposite sex? NO because nobody chooses the sex they are attracted to! It is not a choice! Some people choose to experiment, some on the spectrum of sexuality seek assurance for what attracts them, but nobody is doing wrong, nobody is being unnatural and nobody should judge....especially when they are ignorant of the most basic facts!

Not everyone is like you ...and those people that are different deserve representation too....it is not an agenda, we are simply putting right as a society, what has been wrong for FAR too long! If you are a white, straight, middle class person... you have already won the jackpot, life is statistically easier for you, but appreciate that you are not everyone!

15% of sheep are gay, is the intro to emmerdale farm part of the gay agenda.....? lol

As for marriage.... marriage as a concept DOES NOT BELONG TO CHRISTIANITY, it is an ancient pagan ceremony and belief that has nothing to do with judeao christian belief. It has been adopted through tradition! Marriage does not belong to the god of the bible, get some history books! It is older than he is!

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ANY ILLUSTRATORS OUT THERE?

by DATA-DOG in

jw
friends

i am planning on doing some creative writing.

i want to start a web comic.

i attended a comic-con and sat in on a seminar about web comics, and i met some great local artists.

snare&racket

I have an epic story for a comic series that I would love to make, but likewise can't draw it. I used to sketch and draw all the time as a kid, I passed my art exams at high school level and it ended there really. I did some sketching whilst learning human anatomy and enjoyed it but time became an issue so I couldn't complete it.

I have a JW pal illustrator who is very liberal and good regarding the issue of me leaving so I hope to do something with him, but the theme of my comic is science and evolution (in space lol) so I am hesistant to do it and put him in a difficult situation. The ship is called 'The Beagle'..... lol.

As a side note, there is a UK JW in the north west who is a resl comic illustrator. He has drawn spiderman comic covers etc.

Interesting fact, when they ran the story of spiderman taking his mask of to the world, the UK JW illustrator got the contract to draw the cover and sneaked in some of his own facial features for spiderman's face...

I was never a big comic guy, but my JW pal was and he got me into a few. I miss him and our geek outs! I also miss dedicating an evening to a post bath mug of coffee and 2hr graphic novel session. I have the HUSH graphic novel still that my friend bought me as a gift and I also have Birthright, which is a great one too.

anyway, let me know how it goes...

247

Science proves there is a God

by seekchristonly in

fusion with god natural .

in the cosmos universe or whatever.

all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.

snare&racket

Cass...... if someone walked amongst a pile of motor engineers and said "I think the future of motoring, you know the noisy thing you use spanners on in a car, well I think the future is the flux capacitor"..... they too would instantly realise that this person does not understand the basics of engineering, or the parameters of fiction and reality in engineering.

I really don't know a better way of mirroring back to you what it is like to to have a good understanding of science and read such posts as yours.

It isn't that I/we are smarter or better than you. You are ignorant of basic science information. I was also totally ignorant of the basics, right up until about 7 years ago when I got stuck into the sciences to see what was true and what wasn't. What embarassed me more was how much the JW's hold us back because most people know the basic sciences and were were raised devoid of the basic appreciation of chemistry, physics and biology.

I hope you find these books helpful if you truly want answers..

The Greatest Show On Earth

A Brief ?history of Time

Why E=MC^2

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Just letting you know I passed the exam

by will-be-apostate in

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friends

hi, my apostate friends.. a couple of weeks ago i asked for some advice regarding studying methods.

then some of you asked me to let you know my score after i take the exam at mineralogy.. i scored 90%.

i'm pretty happy with it because the exams i take are not in my native language.. if i keep up with the good scores i might get a scholarship and then bye bye watchtower society.

snare&racket

Superb result, a great example of how hard work translates into a good exam result which itself results in educational opportunities which can result in amazing doors opening....

For so long in my life I had no idea how people achieved secular success and progress. Doing well in exams simply works, I have witnessed exam results change peoples lives for several years now.

You are a fine example WBA, keep it up, if you set out an academic and goal orientated path, it will come to be with hard work.

The Watchtower lied when they said academia does not work, it simply does. Choose a sensible career/end goal, then even if starting from scratch at a mature age (high school grades), you can become anything you wish... just simply pass the exams and you get moved up a stage, then you pass those exams and get advanced another stage etc etc. Do that a few years and eventually you get to the end of the required learning. It really is that simple.

Well done xxx

snare

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Lawrence Krauss

by KateWild in

krauss is an atheist activist and self-described antitheist.

hence his science is biased.

being an antitheist means he's anti god.. anyone disagree?.

snare&racket

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ONE REASON

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

out of interest, and to formulate a cordial chat, would you give your top one reason for your belief or non belief?.

my foremost 'one reason' for non belief is:.

the historical evidence that provides an explination and timeline for how the modern religious doctrine's and dogma developed over time.. .

snare&racket

cool, apologies :D

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ONE REASON

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

out of interest, and to formulate a cordial chat, would you give your top one reason for your belief or non belief?.

my foremost 'one reason' for non belief is:.

the historical evidence that provides an explination and timeline for how the modern religious doctrine's and dogma developed over time.. .

snare&racket

I think that was a personal snipe, but been as I don't understand it, I'll stay hush about it .....x

Cheers prologos for the input, so I summise that you are swayed by the working universe we have around us.

That's cool, cheers.

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Lawrence Krauss

by KateWild in

krauss is an atheist activist and self-described antitheist.

hence his science is biased.

being an antitheist means he's anti god.. anyone disagree?.

snare&racket

Fernando, do help the world by explaining the mysteries of science via the ancient jewish scrolls.....

Or wait until science explains it then look for an ambigous verse that may be construed in it's many translated alterations to mean something akin to the scientific discovery.

No offence and sorry for the teasing, but your last reply is littered with HUGE claims of revelation and knowledge none of which I have seen demonstrated having read the bible several times and knowing the sciences to a reasonable level.

I have no idea how a book that said there was a firmamnet with stars hung on it above a flat circular disk of earth, can be helpfull to science or be in harmony with it. I sincerely looked for harmony between the bible and science fact and not only have i found not one piece or matching information, the words of the bible have been flatly proven wrong countless times by scientific discoveries.

Read Genesis with a biblical companion once more and compare it to the scientific facts of the issue, please come back to me if you find ONE scientific fact found in the Genesis account alone that we now know to be true that could not be simply be summised by logic by the Jewish scribes at the time. If you feel I am being unfair by adding that humans back then were,not idiots, then ignore my last point. But, keep in mind that thousands of years before the jewish nation existed, the egyptians worked out the circumference of the earth to three decimal places using triganometry, they were also doing cataract operations... so don't underestimate what was known back then.

Good luck....