ive been reviewing the scientific claims that the society promoted through the golden age magazine (later replaced by the awake).
not since reading the laws of leviticus have i had so many wtfs as found in the list http://hourglass2.com/historical/the-list/list7_01.htm .
each statement comes from an official publication of the wtbts.
[ ok-si- mawr -on ] noun, plural ox·y·mo·ra [ ok-si- mawr - uh , - mohr - uh ] Rhetoric, a figure of speech by which a locution produces an incongruous, seemingly self-contradictory effect, as in “cruel kindness” or “to make haste slowly" or "Science and the WT."
"the earth is suspended in empty space.
(job 26:7) many ancient peoples believed that the world was a flat disk supported by a giant or an animal, such as a buffalo or a turtle.".
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/science-and-the-bible/.
When it says in the bible 'circle of the earth' it is a reference to a flat disc that we seemed to walk on.
HUNG on nothing is a reference to the belief that it was indeed hung on nothing but supported by pillars.
Watchtower is simply being dishonest or are ignorant about the context and ancient Jewish beliefs.
On the other hand, a thousand years plus before the Jewish people even existed, Egyptians had worked out the circumferance of the SPHERICAL earth to three decimal places, using trigonometry.
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fantastic, great find x
in oregon, during the 4th of july weekend, troopers will be conducting checkpoints to see if someone has been drinking.
if someone refuses a breath test, they will be forced to have their blood extracted from them.. what do you think of this?.
There is a reason, the longer they have to wait between the scene (roadside) and testing, the more evidence is lost.
Taking a blood sample is the most accurate way of knowing the alcohol level in the system, with time passing.
I guess option one.... convict all breath test refusals or option 2 you get an accurate and fair second chance with the blood test.
It may be the 'accurate' breath test machines we have in the uk are not that accurate with time passing, anyone who has watched the police chase tv programs in the Uk have seen people blow over the limit at the roadside then some time later, blow under at the station, leaving with a warning.
If it is anything like the uk, only qualified health workers can take blood, police stations here have a visiting nurse that check over inmates and can do bloods. Blood samples can be ruined if done incorrectly. A famous example was the Diana driver who according to blood samples taken by a dodgy unknown health professional, showed him to be over the limit by several times, but coroners argued this because the blood was taken from an open chest wound exposed to many fluids and chemical changes due to the surrounding damaged tissues and car fluids/contaminants.
I don't wish to face an onslaught now, we all respect america for its ideology for freedom, but people seem to be very .......Alex Jones nowadays. Oh dear I'm in trouble now aren't I..
"They are taking my blood, against my will, so they can use my DNA to estimate my coffin size at the FEMA camps, we know this people, because I have seeeeeen the documents! WAKE UP to the new world order before it is too late for your children! Now, over to you Governor Ventura..."
It's just a blood sample.....and it is in the context of a drink driving incident.....
Jesus waited 100 years in invisibilty, then came out........via a website
"grace.
san francisco bay area.
posted 22 march 2013 - 08:14 pm.
I hate such small minded thinking because it is such a selfish perspective of the world!
As the west has 'struggled' for the last 5 years, China has jumped out of poverty. But no, because we have had 5 years of slightly less cash in our pocket, everything is hurrendous! How ignorant and selfish! Whilst we have suffered one less holiday a year, with the fundamentalists claiming 'Look it's the end of the world' .. rural chinese workers have literally gone from rice fields to office jobs, from bamboo huts to electricity and high rise flats, from disease to medication....
Shanghai in 1990 (top) and in 2010 (bottom)
Start looking a little further than the ten feet around you!
Only a JW would claim that Anglo-America is the one and only CURRENT world power. What utter ignorant nonsense. America and the UK are in debt to China, it has the most exciting economy of all powers and it has the largest military, being twice that of the USA. I am not stupid enough to say the USA is not the most active and influencing nation today, but the UK has no real power, we can't even make our own laws they are made in Brussels. So the ANGLO-America 'prophecy' is already shot down.
The european union, the G4, the Arab League, the UN are powers with no mention in the bible yet they stand alongside the USA today. Russia has just flexed it's muscles without consequence, basically invading two countries and nobody can do a thing, paticularly the USA. This is not the picture of a one world power! Syria is slaughtering its people and the USA can't act because the government knows the media opinion is too fragile and it may be political suicide with public opinion.
It isn't the 1980's anymore, ignorance no loner rules. The world has gotten smaller and smarter, such Watchtower garbage no longer works.
doctor acquitted in post-surgery death of jehovah's witness by kim da-ye.
the supreme court upheld a lower courts decision thursday that a doctor who performed surgery on a jehovahs witness patient without a blood transfusion at her request is not responsible for her death.. .
a 57-year-old doctor, surnamed lee, was charged with occupational negligence leading to the death of his patient who died from complications caused by excessive bleeding during and after hip replacement surgery.. .
Taking the Watchtowers advice about bloodless surgery has real life and death consequence, made evident here.
How sad, how shameful.
It says much that as a JW I could not even explain the concept and evidence for the big bang and didn't meet a JW that could, yet the WT feel it necessary to NOT start with the mountains of evidence for it, but random decades old quotes from scientists that didn't have access to the evidence we now have.
The WATCHTOWER don't want to understand, they want to undermine, that is no place to start with science and is very dishonest to their readers.
The Jehovah's Witness writers have no place talking science that they don't understand. It would be irresponsible of someone even with a physics degree to write such an article! Anything on this topic from someone less than an expert, and I mean EXPERT, is useless, You need a full picture of cosmology and modern physics just to discuss such topics in an honest manner, never mind publish articles on it.
The realm of physics has exploded in the last 20 years with technology allowing modelling of theories via computers and large hadron colliders allowing physical experimentation of atomical physics for the first time!
Watchtower quoting doubts from stand alone scientists like Hoyle from decades ago is totally disingenuous and irresponsible. The article writer clearly doesn't not understand the topic or worse, does and is being deceitful, they were merely sewing together quotes from scientists asking questions out of context of the mountain of evidence, in order to undermine the big bang theory, NOT to understand it. This is important as I am yet to meet a JW that understands the theory.
In reality, with the big bang theory we have more evidence & more understanding of what went on 13 billion years ago..... than we do the theory of gravity!
Watchtower are just attempting to muddy the waters and make it appear like science is in conflict and unable to find truths. We have only had science as a method to understand the world approx 150 years and it has taken us from riding horses to internationsal space stations. The Watchtower leaders and writers have yet to predict or understand ONE thing correctly and have contributed NIL to society. Compare the progress of science to that of the 150 years of Watchtower, scrambling around in ignorant darkness. In 150 years the self proclaimed uneducated leaders couldn't even agree on what the word 'generation' means. Well, the truth being that armageddon keeps, embarrassing for them, not coming therefore requiring 'new light' on the meaning of the word...... so embarrassing.....who on earth are they to talk shop about cosmology! Really!
i had a recent conversation with an elder from my mother's congregation.
he with another elder was at my mom's house.
my mother has all the bound volumes for both the awake and watchtower plus most of the older books.
You are dead right, the religion I grew up in, no longer exists. It even has a different name that says it all really.... JW.ORG
Do you know the Polar Bear? As in the Ice Road Trucker? I'm sure one of you do , Canada isn't that big right? Ay?
